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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

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shabster · 26/05/2008 11:18

Morning Dooby. Tom is much better - still a bit weepy but we are getting there.

Im going to be Grandma - would quite like to be Ya Ya (Greek for Grandma) quite hoping that Lewis cant say Grandma and it comes out Ya Ya. My DS thinks Im barking mad - well he's not far wrong Been trying to learn Greek for a couple of years but it is very hard. We go to Rhodes on the 28th June so really hoping Em doesn't go overdue!!

feedmenow · 26/05/2008 11:52

Morning all, thank you so, so much for being here. I know that managing my feelings is going to be hard, especially cos people in RL have seen me over the past few weeks and probably think I am moving forward. It would be hard for me to tell them how I feel now, I think.

Have got Eveny's party today. She is having a catwalk photoshoot party. Her dad is doing the photos, her godfather has built a catwalk and me, SIL, bf (also Evenys godmother) and various other friends are going to be doing the girls hair and makeup and costume changes. Don't know what I have let myself in for!!!!

Can't remembr if I told you all that dp and I have taken my parents up on their offer to pay for a break for us and look after dd1 and ds while we are away. So on Friday morning we are off to Corfu. My first time to Greece (I hear you, Shabs, questioning why I have never been before!!!!!! TBH, the not being able to flush loo roll down the loo has always put me off!)

Glad the Osmonds were so fab Shabs!

Lottie, was wondering how your 12yo could have a DIL!!!!!

Hi Dooby, FM, Hazy and Lousie Ann! Hope everyone is enjoying their BH weekend (in the pi**ing rain!)

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Doobydoo · 26/05/2008 11:53

Love YAYAMy mum is Nonna.She has been learning Italian for years and hopes to live out there soon.I have never been to Greece but would like to one day.
Fingers crossed she dosen't go overdue.Glad Tom is on the mend.
How lovely for Wilf Lottie

shabster · 26/05/2008 12:13

FMN - The party sounds fab....could you work your hair and beauty magic on me??? Think I need polyfilla on my wrinkles.

at toilet paper!! Takes a bit of getting used to - we take baby wipes and use them - funny conversation for a Bank Holiday Monday!!

Seriously, you will have a wonderful time. The Greek people (especially the Greek Islands) are hospitable and so wonderful. It sounds great and will do you good to be in a place where you dont have to tell your story (unless you want to) and you can just lie in the hot sunshine and recharge your batteries.

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 26/05/2008 19:28

FMN - I have been away for the weekend and have only just seen you posts

It seems you are struggling to find the sense in it all, and I think the answer is there is no sense to it.

I have raged against the senseless waste of it all, and now I think I have (for the majority of the time) started to come to terms with the fact that I will never understand why things happen. Although needless to say this isn't karma coming back and biting you in the arse - please don't try and twist what has happened and blame yourself.

Look after yourself xx

feedmenow · 26/05/2008 21:07

The party was a huge success! It went really, really well. The girls were very shy at first so the beachwear section wasn't great, but they got into it for the playing with friends bit and by the time we got to evening wear they were really strutting their stuff!

I'm going to put some pictures of Eveny on my profile, but I need to wait to get some others back from her dad as the only ones I got was her with her friends (and I don't want to post their pics without permission!)

Slight glitch mid-party as the fire alarm in the kitchen went off (in a hired hall) so we had to evacuate1 I thought I'd get in trouble cos it was the tongs/crimpers/straighteners, but it turned out to be a fault in the kitchen and nothing to do with our equipment!

I also had a beautiful card today from my best friends colleague who's daughter died a day old about 3 years ago. I remember hearing about it and thinking how devastating it was. But bless this lady, I've never met her but she was so thoughtful and wrote some really personal things. It means a lot.

Shabs, would you recommend taking baby wipes in stead of bog (ha ha!) standard loo roll?

ILTMIMI, where have you been? Hope you had a great time where ever you were!

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hazygirl · 26/05/2008 21:08

shabster my middle granddaughter calls me bandma cant say grandma ,i swear my youngest granddaughter can say claire she 8 month old and claire is my youngest dd. im glad you enjoyed the osmonds .fmn i hope you are feeling better im glad u are getting away ,enjoy the rest. hugs to everyone elsexx

lottiejenkins · 26/05/2008 21:24

Wilf cant say granny he calls my mum "graggy" oh how she loves that being roared in the supermarket when W cant find her! Has been a trying day here,,, have been in the house all day,,,, He got bored earlier and ended up smacking himself in the face with his skateboard! Rather a lot of tears and a fraught mum! FMN more hugs for you!!!

frasersmummy · 26/05/2008 22:08

I cant believe you have all been stuck in the house looking at the rain all day

up here in scotland .. its been a beautiful day. Hubby promised ross that we would take him strawberry picking without checking to see if the farm was open for picking yet.. and of course it wasnt ... Doh!!

So we took a picnic to the park instead. It was a really fun day.

I have shed a few tears tonight. I just cant seem to help myself .. everytime we have a nice family day I end up thinking that our family is one short oh well in the words of my new friends UMPAH

lottiejenkins · 26/05/2008 22:15

Whats UMPAH mean? ive missed that somewhere along the way methinks!!!

frasersmummy · 26/05/2008 22:38

Hi lottie

I picked up umpah from Trips last weekend ..she said something like oh well onwwards and upwards with umpah. I just thought it was a great phrase.

If I recall rightly she picked the phrase up from shabster

hope some others of us saw the sunshine today

goodnight to all our angels

shabster · 27/05/2008 00:59

Hiya girls...UMPAH..whatever it means the Greek people shout it loud and proud when they are having a party. They dance and sing and all you can hear is UMPAH - dont care what it means it is a hopeful word!! Its a promise of better days to come word...UMPAH.

FMN - they have loads of bog roll in Greece but a few bumper packs of luxurious baby wipes are quite magnificent - UMPAH. Keep them in the fridge as well Cant believe I am giving toilet accessory tips on our Eris' thread My Tommy, even now, will be 50 yards away from me in the swimming pool, he then shouts:- 'Mum, Mum MUUUUUUMMMM I need a poo, have you got the babywipes (he will soon be 11 but likes announcing his bowel movements) The hotel staff PTSL - 'UMPAH he needs baby arse wipes'

shabster · 27/05/2008 01:09

Greek party dancing

FMN I hope you do some of this in Corfu...you need sunshine on your back and a space to clear your heart and mind...enjoy my darling. The Greek islands are magnificent and embrace the people and the culture they are just lifesaving

shabster · 27/05/2008 10:08

Morning girls......hope everybody is OK x

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 27/05/2008 10:15

DP and I went to Paris for a long weekend. I can't believe how beautiful the city is, I knew about its reputation, but we were still blown away.

We done loads of walking, so I feel knackered today. I'm 25 weeks pregnant, so I'm now at the stage where things start to get a bit harder, but I don't really like to admit it

FMN - I hope you both have a lovely time in Corfu. It will give you both a chance to relax and enjoy each others company - something we don't do enough when we are at home.

Lottie - I love your stories about Wilf, they always make me smile. He sounds like such a brilliant shining light.

shabster · 27/05/2008 10:44

WOW Moveit - how lovely. I've never been to Paris but it sounds so romantic.

Doobydoo · 27/05/2008 11:12

Morning AllHow lovely Move It..re Paris.Glad you had a lovely time.Quick post as seem to be busy today.
Hope all is well.
Will pop in this evening,clutching a vat of wine

lottiejenkins · 27/05/2008 14:25

When i went to Paris three years ago on my own i had a complete ball.. I made my mum laugh i rang her from a boat on the river and said "hi mum im on the seine" as opposed to the train ha ha. When i was at the very top of the Eiffel Tower i had a real fright though. It was lunchtime and some factory on the other side of the city let off an air raid siren to let the staff know. I thought WW3 had broken out,,,,,,horrible noise... Wilfs been for a haircut today,, he saw his best friend in the car park who had had a no 2..... despite much pleading the Wilfmeister had a no 5. I dont think Granny would have liked a no 2 either in fact she would probably have fainted Love to everybody,,,,,,,xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

lottiejenkins · 27/05/2008 20:38

ILTMIMI.... Thanks am glad Wilf makes you smile we have just got back from dinner in our local gastropub! I hope everyone is ok tonight!!!!!! XXXXXXXXXXXXX

shabster · 27/05/2008 22:25

Good evening ladies...everyone OK?

lottiejenkins · 28/05/2008 09:07

Morning everybody.... Havent had any news of Jo yet Shabs..... hows Emma?

shabster · 28/05/2008 09:47

Morning Lottie - not heard anything today. Midwife seemed very confident she would not go to 40 weeks Think I will go onto msn and see if she is around. Dont want to ring her just in case she has managed a sleep. Will keep you informed

shabster · 28/05/2008 09:50

No she isin't around on msn. Will give her another hour or so then text. She has been having so much trouble sleeping that I dont want to wake her!!

feedmenow · 28/05/2008 09:58

Morning all. Aaah, gay Paris (said in French accent please).

Dp booked us a weekend there as my birthday pressie last year. It was lovely, but we were so knackered that we were too tired to enjoy each others company a whole lot. You know, because we were so busy seeing the sights and walking everywhere by the time we stopped for dinner we were practically too tired to even maintain a conversation! We had a fab time but it was over with so quickly. But a week in Greece should give us plenty of time to do bugger all!

Moveit, you must be absolutely exhausted doing Paris at 25 weeks pg!! Hope you are putting your feet up now?

Lottie, I thought you were talking about a different sort of number 2 for a minute there! Must be the loo roll/baby wipe talk!

Also, my friends daughter didn't used to be able to say my name (Jackie) so she used to call me Fuckie! Imagine her calling that out in the supermarket! She used to see me and literally should "Fuckie!!!!" while running over to me!!

Shabs, I'm sure I don't need to ask but let us know if you hear any exciting news!

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lottiejenkins · 28/05/2008 10:15

Wilfs dad's name was Frank which caused many many unintentional problems with the littlies... My niece who is a year and a half older than Wilf used to sit with my Mum who would have our picture,,, shed said whos that and point to me "Chart" whos that point to Wilf "Wif" whos that point to Frank "W..k" My poor mother went scarlet... then another time when Frank was in the front garden my friend was passing with her youngest and he(George) yelled at full volume "Hello W..k" very loudly........ cue more red faces!

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