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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

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tori32 · 14/05/2008 22:07

FMN so for you tonight. I know I haven't been through what you are going through, I can only send lots of .
My cousin had a stillborn ds at 8mths and that was due to a clot in the placenta.
I guess what I am clumsily trying to say, is that the clot could have happened at any time, much earlier than you would have had a section, so please try not to blame yourself. Its not your fault xxxxx

shabster · 15/05/2008 06:10

Morning girls - have been awake since 5am with a million thoughts running round my head.

Hope today is good for everybody and the sun keeps shining.

hazygirl · 15/05/2008 08:24

morning shabs and everyone,hope u ok ,i know how it is when you get the results you just lay awake thinking if it could be different ,and god how we wish it was.ive had a horrible week a friend that i know has died he was 62, and hes no family so got to sort his home out and his funeral,its heartbreaking,no one informed us as they didnt look at old care plan,i was informed by text from friend at hospital we both work at,.

hazygirl · 15/05/2008 08:24

morning shabs and everyone,hope u ok ,i know how it is when you get the results you just lay awake thinking if it could be different ,and god how we wish it was.ive had a horrible week a friend that i know has died he was 62, and hes no family so got to sort his home out and his funeral,its heartbreaking,no one informed us as they didnt look at old care plan,i was informed by text from friend at hospital we both work at,.

lottiejenkins · 15/05/2008 08:31

Morning all, ive been thinking so much about u FMN...I should be hearing from Mr Carpenter today re the plaque for the cross and measurements etc then i can order it. I wont be online tomorrow nite as im on a trip away till late.

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 15/05/2008 08:50

FMN - when I read your last post, the saying that came to mind was 'should'a, would'a, could'a'.

We don't know why our little man got sick in the first place, although it was a probably a virus that caused the liver failure. We moved not long before Cole became ill, so I ended up obsessing that if we hadn't moved, this would never have happened. Of course this train of thought can't be proved, and in the end it becomes destructive.

All of the 'what if's' that are swimming around in your head are normal and will probably always be there, but there will come a time when you can control and reconcile them. But it's too early for that at the moment, so take time for this different phase of grieving.

Much love to you and your family xx

feedmenow · 15/05/2008 11:23

Thank you all. I know you are right, but I just can't help it. Dooby, I asked the "what if". The consultant said that if she'd been born early she probably would have been OK. In a way I wish she hadn't said that, but I appreciate her honesty and at least I know she's been straight with me, and I can trust all the other answers she gave me.
A slightly funny story about needing someone/something to blame coming up. My grandad died when I was 11. A big group of family had been to see our football team play 2 days before in an important match. We lost. I got the blame cos I was always a jinx! So then when my grandad died 2 days later I somehow managed to blame myself because our team had lost! After a while I realised that a fopotball match couldn't ACTUALLY have caused my grandads death so I twisted my blame to it being my fault that he'd died unhappy cos our team had lost! Now, many years on, I can laugh at it!

Hazy, so sorry to hear about your friend Can't believe nobody checked the care plan. It makes you wonder why SS have them in the first place! Have you got help to sort his stuff out? I'm in Surrey if I'm anywhere near you and you need a helping hand.....

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Doobydoo · 15/05/2008 14:18

oH FMNI am,however glad consultant is straightforward.The thing is though sections are often advised for women who have had 2 previous ones because of the risk,to the woman of the scar bursting etc.I really believe that they would not have let you go for VBAC if they were concerned for your baby and her well being.In a way having choices is not a good thing as we have more to blame ourselves for.
I can remember going around,mentally hunched waiting for the next awfu;l thingto happen after Hannah died.
I think that is so sad that you thought your Grandad dying was your fault.I t shows how vulnerable we are a s children and adults!
I don't know how much earlier Eris would have been born if you had had a section did they say?My section with ds2 was around 39 weeks.

Doobydoo · 15/05/2008 14:18

Hazy I too am so sorry about your friend

Doobydoo · 15/05/2008 14:21

Also FMN...NEVER apologiseYou are allowed to feel how you feel.There is no right or wrong way to feel.and it can take as long as it takes.Whatever others may say!
No apologies please!

Doobydoo · 15/05/2008 14:21

Don't mean whatever people on this thread say,obviouslyjust well meaning people in RL.

hazygirl · 15/05/2008 14:25

cheers but im in yorkshire,i dont drive so my hubby has taken week off but what a week my dd has organised a sponspor walk for fsid on saturday ,so busy getting ready for that..i just wish i could drive but then hey .fmn im so sorry for your loss ,its the most heartbreaking thing to ever go through ,but i know all our angels are up there together massive hugs,

shabster · 15/05/2008 14:34

Dooby you always make me - I think you worry that you are saying the wrong thing and you're not sweetheart. You are speaking from the heart. Glad we are all in Eris' gang. Can you imagine the gossiping going on between all our beloved children? Im not religious but I do think there is a 'heaven' a place where good folk go to. My Matt and Gareth will be saying to Eris - my mum always sends snogs to your dad Matt loved the word 'snogs!!'

frasersmummy · 15/05/2008 14:44

I had a very bad day the other day at work and just wanted to see if anyone else thought this was a normal reaction.

I was in a 1-1 meeting with my boss and he said Ross is your first isnt he. I said yeah well no actually if you count Fraser then he is my second

I had forgotten that this guy didnt work with the co when I lost Fraser and I had tell him all about it.

Becaue I was soo unprepared for this conversation it upset me for the rest of the day. I work on a helpdesk and I just wanted to tell folk that I didnt want to hear abut their stupid pc's. I came close to tears a few times

Is this normal 4 years down the line??

shabster · 15/05/2008 14:50

I still do that 26 years down the line from loosing Gareth and 16 years from loosing Matt. Really, really normal behaviour.

I have even blurted my story out to people who are total strangers.

Sending you a massive hug and yes tell the people to shut up about their bloody PC's xxx

shabster · 15/05/2008 15:24

Have to run to school for Tom - have left a link for a lady who has sadly miscarried. Told her to come over here. If anybody is around and Beakas comes onto Eris' thread please can you welcome her?.........back soon

beakas · 15/05/2008 16:56

Hi all, am a 'new girl', feeling weirdly shy. Thankyou Shabster for the link to find you all.Am having a bad time of it at the moment, although having read through some of your stories on here I feel so sad for you all as well.
We were told two weeks ago that our baby no longer had a heart beat. I was 16 weeks in, had no problems, been trying for 2 years and then woke up one morning with a teeny bit of bleeding. To cut a long story short we ended up at the hospital where we were given the soul destroying news.
I never got to meet or hold our baby but we loved him so much.Some days I give myself the 'pull yourself together speech' and other days I just want to howl and sob and punch the walls. I don't care about myself anymore (must be bad!)I find myself taking risks as 'punishment'.
I have to say that the ladies of MN have been a huge support though, and maybe one day I'll wake up and instead of getting a sinking feeling in my stomach I will find I have something to look forward to. Maybe.

Doobydoo · 15/05/2008 17:28

Oh beakasI am so sorry.I know things will get better but you mustn't be so hard on yourself.Welcome to this thread I know you will receive whatever help you need here
Quick post as just got in!
Yes,Frasersmummy...it is,as shabster says perfectly normal[me 18 years down the line].
Thankyou for yourand reassurance shabster.

shabster · 15/05/2008 17:32

Hiya Beakas welcome.

Glad you came to this thread - I think we are all helping each other - we are all at different stages of bereavement and with different experiences but it has helped me a great deal. I think the more often you tell your own personal story the better.

Hope we can be of support to you. told you we have some of those here!!

lottiejenkins · 15/05/2008 18:23

Hi everyone, I ordered Jacks plaque this afternoon from a lovely lady, whoever said i wasnt meant to use the first company was so right, the lady was so nice and easy to talk to. I have decided to put JACK JENKINS 22ND DECEMBER 1994. SON OF FRANK AND CHARLOTTE BROTHER OF WILFRED LOVED AND MISSED EVERY DAY.
I think that says all i need to say, and im glad i put Wilfs name on too as he knows all about his brother.

shabster · 15/05/2008 18:24

Pefect Lottie - just perfect. Glad you got it sorted. xxxxx

lottiejenkins · 15/05/2008 18:28

Thanks Shabs xxxxxxxxxxx

Doobydoo · 15/05/2008 20:59

To echo Shabster Lottie that sounds just perfect

frasersmummy · 15/05/2008 21:12

evening everyone

thank you shabster and doobydoo for your words of re-assurance. This thread is such a lifeline... I never had anyone I could ask these kinda questions of before.

frasersmummy · 15/05/2008 21:18

welcome beakas .. I am sorry that you have had to join us here but hopefully you will find some help and support

I well remember waking up each morning with that sinking feeling. I know its easy for those of us further along the journey to say butit does get easier as time passes

The pain never leaves you but you do develop skills to cope with it

In the meantime take time to aknowledge your grief, dont fight it , if you feel like yelling and punching your pillow then do it, if you feel like crying do it

and most of all keep talking on here.. it really does help

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