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Our Children budded on earth to bloom in heaven

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frasersmummy · 15/04/2011 08:12

I think we have had this title before but it seems appropriate for spring

I have started this thread in honour of all our children but particularly Fraser who would have been 7 today. Happy birthday son we still miss you dearly. You will always be our firstborn and we always remember you in our hearts

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lottiejenkins · 04/06/2011 22:54

Love and Hugs Lavandes xxx

lavandes · 04/06/2011 23:19

Thanks lottie, I thought everyone was asleep. I am a little pissed at the moment. Can you tell me when the flashbacks (not just flashbacks but reliving all the painful moments, visiting him in the mortuary and chapel of rest funeral etc)stop? I just seem to go over it again and again. I get nowhere. xx

gingegirl · 04/06/2011 23:30

Lavandes, in the last month all I see when I close my eyes is beautiful baby boy lying there on the hospital bed wired up to the life support machine and then him in his little White coffin in the chapel of rest!!!! I don't think these images are ever going away!!!!

lavandes · 04/06/2011 23:42

Oh Ginge I am so sorry I hope I have not upset you xx

CheeseandGherkins · 04/06/2011 23:44

I'm still up and also had a few...I get that still a lot lavandes, and it's 6 months now. Feelings are above ^

It's shit, it always will be, I don't how to deal with that but all I can do is keep going. I'm sure all of us are doing the same.

The guilt I feel is huge. Now we're looking at headstones, made me cry when I looked the other week. I haven't since that much but need to decide. The one we like needs to be smaller so, waiting to see if they can do it.

Mostly it's just terrible but just getting by, I've found for me at least. For me now, I went into hospital 6 months tomorrow to be induced and knew she was dead. Waited all day, I was so bloody nervous and worried but in the end it happened. I feel angry, sad, everything

gingegirl · 04/06/2011 23:45

No not at all!!! It's nice to know I'm not the only person who does this!!! Try not to but can't help it!!! Just miss him sooooo much!!! Does this ever get easier??

lavandes · 04/06/2011 23:57

It does get easier its not like this all the time now. I seem to cope for a while then sometimes it seems like I am thrown back to square 1, then the next day it is not so bad. It never goes away but it is not always at the front of my mind., I think I have got used to thinking of him all the time but he is not always at the front sometimes he moves to the middle and the back of my mind. My son died in April 2010. I cannot believe that over a year has passed. I think I have come through the past year a stronger person but sometimes I am back at the beginning. I think this is how the grief journey is, it can take you by surprise sometimes if you see what I mean. xx

gingegirl · 05/06/2011 00:11

Yeah I see what you mean! At the moment he's the only thing I really think about!!! How old was your son? Life can be so very cruel!! Xx

lavandes · 05/06/2011 00:14

I don't know if this is any help but I do think I cope better when I am busy, If Richard had lived I would have retired by now. But I have found going to work has been a lifeline to me. It is not always easy, I get panic attacks. But I have learnt how to overcome them. I have done this by myself with no help. I am lucky that my working environment allows me to do this. I am a receptionist and most of the time work with a colleague. I just pretend to need to go to the loo, then I compose myself, paint on my smile and get on with it. I am an oscar winning actress!!. If I can do this then maybe you can too, we must do whatever we must just to keep sane xx

lavandes · 05/06/2011 00:15

My son was 34 and died suddenly. I don't think I have got over the shock yet.

lavandes · 05/06/2011 00:20

We were told that Richard had died by a policeman with a clipboard coming to our house on a Sunday afternoon. I felt sorry for him as he was on his own and I just ran around my house screaming 'no no no'. I still feel sick when a police car passes my house.xx

gingegirl · 05/06/2011 00:24

Yeah, olivers death was sudden!! Shock of it all is. Lot to take in. I don't work so I think I have a lot of spare time on my hand to think, perhaps too much!! We are actually getting. Puppy next week, he was born on olivers 2nd birthday, and when we found the advert for him it was like a sign!!! Maybe it will help who knows!!! Xx

gingegirl · 05/06/2011 00:26

Oh, that must have been sooo hard for you!!! I bet you dread seeing police!!! And they are everywhere!!! Did he have any kids of his own??

lavandes · 05/06/2011 00:29

You must do whatever you think will help. A puppy will keep you busy. I do believe in signs. I must go to bed now. I need to sleep. Take care xx

gingegirl · 05/06/2011 00:30

Thanx for the chat!! Sleep well xx

CheeseandGherkins · 05/06/2011 01:09

lavandes I cannot even imagine how hard it is for you, and only April last year. You had 34 years with him plus your pregnancy, what you feel must be awful. I can't think of words to say. Going to light a candle for you and Richard after this post xxx

ginge thinking of you too

xxx

triplets · 05/06/2011 06:49

Oh girls..............sat in bed awake early as usual and reading your posts:( I like Shabs have been on my journey of grief for a very long time now. It was 17 years last Thurs that Matthew died. Sudden death is such a huge shock, not only mentally but physically to yourself. Matthew was 14, only child, never ill. How could he walk into my garden and collapse, be gone before he touched the floor? Years of chasing an answer, test after test, and there is nothing. I know I have to be thankful he didnt die of cancer or an awful accident, poor Shabs has the most awful memories of that, but its not <strong>knowing</strong>. Everyone used to say in the first early days that time heals, I couldnt believe that could happen, didnt want it to happen because that would make me feel guilty, as though I could go on without him. But that is exactly what you do, you go on, your find the strength. Days turn into weeks, weeks into months and months into years and tears dry up. But always be prepared for a blip, a sudden memory, a piece of music, a yogurt on a supermarket shelf that was his favourite. 17 years and Munch Bunch yogurts still get to me. I have been through panicy times when I think I cant remember his voice, feel as though he was never here , feel guilty that he is not the first thing I think of when I wake up anymore, the last thing I think of when I go to sleep. But this is healing and its good. We cannot go back, but for them we can go on, holding them forever within us as we did when we carried them, ours always to love and to know that they are ours, a part of us that can never truly die. It is a long road, but take the diversions along the way, don`t feel guilty going off the track, it can lead to joy..........................be happy without guilt, wear your masks when you need to cover up, Shabs and I still do.................do this for them, thats what they would want. Love to you all. xx

shabbapinkfrog · 05/06/2011 08:41

Morning girls xx

Just sat here trying to think what I could say that would 'help' everybody.....Trips, beautiful words that explain everything so well. How many times have we talked on the telephone trying to make some sense of it all? There is 'no sense' to any of it I am afraid. None at all. There is 'no death so sad as that of a child.' Wether that child be born sleeping, a few minutes old, a young child, a strapping teenager, or a grown man or woman. I have no idea why this all happens. I don't think I ever will. I think we all have to (with each others help) walk this crappy road together. I think we have to do the very best we can with what we have got. To try and pin on our smile and be kind to others.

shelleylou · 05/06/2011 09:07

Trips its soo true about people saying time heals. I dont think it does. I think the most annoying thing people said to me after the death of my db was 'keep your chin up' I remember clearing phoning the doctor to get some help as i couldnt sleep. Doctor was lovely did me a prescription there and then so i didnt have to go to the surgery as i wasnt up to it. I STBXH picked it up for me and i walked to the chemist. Woman in there told me to smile it cant be that bad, i glared at her and told her it couldnt be any worse my db was killed the previous day. Her jaw dropped and she couldnt get away quick enough. I burst into tears and fainted. The staff were lovely, gave me some water and offered to give me a lift home. I was far to concerned with getting the paper as it had to be right (they had misprinted my youngest db's name I must have sounded like a loon repeating its got to be right. Now i can see she didnt know it was my db and was one of those things people say but at the time i was fuming that someone could be so insensitive.

Strangers quite often ask me about the 2 tattoos i have on my left arm. One is an 'in loving memory' 1 so im asked who it was the other is rather random. 3 circles. The answer to that is quite simple 3 siblings 3 lives but always connected. People who are close to me obviously know but the also knw each 1 of my tattoos have a reason behind them even if that reason isn't obvious to everyone else.

Lavandes my sweet.. I know too well what you mean about flashbacks. I had them too I still have them. I went to the hosiptal mortuary practically everyday (bar when Matty was at another hospital for his forensic autopsy) then went daily to the funeral home although that was only 3 times last being the morning of the funeral. I see him clearly in both at times but i take comfort from the fact he was peaceful in both. I think it hit me more the second night i saw him in his coffin friends were with us the first, i ran out of the room screaming that i couldnt do it sat in the hallway and sobbed.
I miss and love him soo much... Sorry for the ramble been having a few hard days with it.

greenzebra · 05/06/2011 09:41

Ive woken up feeling guilty, I had a dream last night, well two. The first one was kind of happy but thats why I feel guilty. I dreamt I had another baby and it was a boy. I feel guilty because Ophelia only died 5 and a half weeks ago.
The second dream was about my DH and he was having an affair with my best friend because he said I couldnt give him children.
Ive woken up in a bit of daze, I know they are not real but I also know they are going to stay with me for the remainder of the day.

Reading the posts earlier, I am so grateful to my friend who sat on the phone the other day while I told her all about the birth of Ophelia, and now Im writing it down in a notebook to put in the memory box, it has really helped.
Its funny when this first happened I didnt want to talk about any of it but then I started to and it did help. It has made peole realise that I did experience birth even though she was not alive. They are often shocked that I did it all with gas and air, I had asked for extra pain relief but it happened too quick I never got a chance to have it.

I hope everyone has a gentle day

lavandes · 05/06/2011 11:12

Morning ladies xx

Hoping for a peaceful day for us all xx

CheeseandGherkins · 05/06/2011 15:30

Afternoon. I've lit a candle already today. 6 months ago I was in hospital being induced. I can't believe it's been 6 months, and tomorrow afternoon I would have been giving birth. It's all I can think about really. Carrying on as usual to everyone else but all that's on my mind is Scarlett and her birth and death.

greenzebra · 05/06/2011 16:29

thinking of you cheese, let the grief carry you today.

greenzebra · 05/06/2011 16:42

why oh why did I look at that video, I thought I could handle seeing that baby smile but, theres my baby in a little urn, on the table. I have no baby, shes not here.

shabbapinkfrog · 05/06/2011 17:02

What video have you watched Green?

My neighbours, after Matty was killed, made us a short video of all their 'little bits' of Matty on their video cameras. It is just 11 minutes long. It shows that little lad who had a massive grin, shiney eyes, and a very loud voice Smile Shows him dancing at a wedding, playing with his big brother and on his bike. I sometimes watch it but I cant listen to it because I can hear his booming voice....it makes me smile and then instantly sob. Im not sure why we do this kind of thing to ourselves. I have now 'hidden' the video until I am stronger. xx