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Some advice desperatly needed. We can't take much more.

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YellowFeathers · 31/07/2006 08:10

This is going to be a long post but I would be so appreciative if at least one person would read it and offer some advice.
I'll start from the very begining and try and explain everything I can so that you can see the full picture.

Ok
Dd is 2 and a bit, she'll be 3 in October. We moved house at the end of June to a new area and a bigger place also baby no.2 is due in 2 weeks time.
So yes, alot is going on atm.

Now before we moved dd was what I would call a typical 2 year old. She started potty training in January of this year, come April she was out of nappies and using the toilet. A couple of weeks after this she had started to go on her own and before we moved was happily using her stool for the toilet to get to the sink, turn on the tap and wash her hands.
Since we've moved things in the toilet dept have gradually got worse. We've gone from occasionaly wetting herself sometimes pooing herself but not fully IYSWIM to flatly refusing to go to the toilet at all.
For the last 2 days now she is refusing to have a poo. You can tell she needs it (as I'm sure all parents do). You have to have an argument involving lots of crying, screaming and shouting to get her to go up. I had to sit with her for 15 mins the other day to persuade her to have a poo. This involved lots of "Come on squeeze it out", "you'll have a poorly tummy if you don't" etc etc.

The next problem is bedtimes although I think this does seem to be getting a bit better. She always had a lamp on and some music. For the last couple of weeks we were at the old house and up until last week she was listening to the same CD which was a mixture of kids songs. The first one being Old McDonald. When she went to bed we had a right old time of it as you can imagine happens with toddlers. The classic delaying tactics, "I need a glass of water", "read me a book" etc. She was then coming out of her room 2 mins after settling hysterical because she wanted Old Mcdonald on again. One night I'd even noticed that she'd gone into the bathroom, taken out her little stool and brought it into her room so she could reach the CD player to press the repeat button and I have no idea how she knew to do that!
This all came to head last week as she was waking up in the night screaming for it on and bedtimes were becoming unbearable.
Like I said this has calmed alot now and its alot easier for her to settle and it doesn't take as long.

Now dh and I think that she has some kind of anxiety about going upstairs. We've gone from a small 2 bed house with one of those open plan staircases to a 4 bed house with a huge upstairs hallway that you have to turn round a corner on to get to the bedrooms and bathroom.
We have asked her the best ways we possibly can to a 2 year old, to see why she is behaving like she is. The replies we have had our that she is scared of bees in her room? (there was once a small fly in her room) but I don't think for a minute that bothers her.
On Thursday I made a sticker chart for her which she loved. I put 3 boxes on it; bedtimes, going to the toilet and dinners. Thursday and Friday is full of stickers, Saturday has a few and yesterday has none at all. We told her that she could go out for the day as a treat if she was good and got lots of stickers and even after her bad day on Saturday we still took her to the local play farm. Maybe looking back now that wasn't such a great idea.

I have been so so upset about it. Partly down to frustration because I know she can do it and because I know its upsetting her and she obviously is struggling with a fear or anxiety of some sort and like all of you reading this, as a parent all you want to do is make it better for them isn't it?

So what else can we do?
I just cannot and won't more to the point, sit with her in the toilet anymore. In 2 weeks time I won't be able to anyway. We need to get back to her being ok with going on her own and it not being a problem.
This obsession with Old Mcdonald song, I mean is this quite normal to want to listen to a song constantly?

I must sound so dramatic but believe me it is so awful to have to cope with this day in day out.

Any advice will be graeful or words of wisdom, even humour, anything!
We're so desperate!

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YellowFeathers · 01/08/2006 10:20

If I say shes going back into nappies it makes her scream and cry. She doesn't like it
but

when we first moved in we had a day when we were decorating all day and she was really bad with wetting herself so I snapped and ended up putting her in a nappy which she hated at first but then didn 't bother and just used it.

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liquidclocks · 01/08/2006 10:29

YellowFeathers - not very much advice but lots of sympathy for you. I'm expect no.2 in Spetember and it's a hard enough time it is. Only two things I can think of really as DS1 is only 21 months and we're not going to attempt potty training until is speech is much better and the new baby is so 'new'.

We moved house 5months ago and he was ok for 2 weeks or so, running from room to room and enjoying the space. Then suddenly he became constantly tearful andthe running turned to wandering - I think he realised we weren't going 'home' and were here to stay. We just gave him as much love and cuddles as poss and made a big fuss of playing with him upstairs in his new room rather than spending all our time downstairs. I wondered if spending a few hours playing upstairs with you DD might help her feel more at ease? And you'll be closer to the loo!

Second thing is I can actually remeber being 2 quite well and having a new brother, moving house etc though I dodn't present my parents with loo troubles - like my 'pretty knickers' too much! But I do remember being very scared of my new room in the dark because it was so far away from anyone else. I think night lights and open doors are probably a good way to go here and maybe go out together and get a special 'guard' toy. ALso is there anything you can do to make the landing more inviting? Maybe fairy lights or happy decorations.

Do hope DD gets happier, I'm sure everything will turn out for you. Just be calm and give her lots of praise for the things she does do well.

kbaby · 01/08/2006 10:51

Not any real advice as im due a new baby any day now and also have a 26 month DD, however, Re the sticker chart. I tried one for teeth brushing and DD just couldnt grasp that she would get a treat after every 5 stickers so instead each time she brushes her teeth she gets a sticker stuck to her tshirt which she has to show everyone and tell them what it was for 'I got a sticker for being a good girl and brushing my teeth'
So far its working and shes actually asking to brush her teeth.

Reece · 01/08/2006 13:11

Funny you should say that about stickers kbaby because DS has started to use potty again since I let him put some stickers onto it. We scrapped the chart reward thing as he just wasn't interested anymore.

It seems that if they can put stickers directly onto themselves or something closely linked to what you want them to do they can be encouraged.

DS1 is 2.9 and DS2 is 16mths. I have all of these battles to go through again soon.....

monkey · 01/08/2006 13:51

but that's why you turn the conversation 'manipulate' it so she asks for the nappies, then it's coming from her. then when the pressure's off - new baby been here a bit, used to new house etc etc she'll be able to get back into it dead easy

brimfull · 01/08/2006 23:03

sorry haven't had time to read the whole thread but regarding the settling,do you think it would help if you stayed upstairs and pottered around for a while to reassure her.We had to do this at various stages with both children,still do with ds.

The toilet business,I would go back to pull ups for a while and take the pressure off.She's still quite young.Ds wasn't trained until 3yrs 3 months.He went to preschool in pull-ups.
Sorry if I've repeated what others have said.
Hope things improve for you.

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