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What do you think of Esmae?

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gemcgem · 17/03/2010 12:22

What do you think of Esmae as a girl's name? It's listed on Mumsnet's Baby Name Finder.

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LynetteScavo · 19/03/2010 15:45

Esmae is a lifestyle choice.

littlemissm · 19/03/2010 15:48

Stayingdavidtennantsgirl- Of course not maybe i should of been abit more clear on my post i apolagise for that. What i was refering to was the people who were taking the piss out of her spelling. People giving there thoughts on the spelling of the name was the initial thread question & of course not everyone agreed on gems choice but to persecute her for her spelling was wrong.The thread steered away frm the actual qustion & gems spelling(& the way i chose to spell certain words) came into question instead this is what i meant about the bullying of course the answering of the name was one thing but the rest was uncalled for.

littlemissm · 19/03/2010 15:53

Stayingdavidtennantsgirl-I meant gems spelling of words in her posts not the spelling of her name choice.

usualsuspect · 19/03/2010 15:57

I do the internal smirking at little baby Hugos/Arthurs/and Wilfreds etc and think poor kid being saddled with an old mans name ..different strokes and all that

FWWC · 19/03/2010 15:58

Esme is lovely. Esmae not good. Seems to be quite a concensus on that! For me, I always like or dislike names according to people I've met with that name, or characters from books/films. The only Esme I know of is films was the farmer's wife in Babe (the story of a pig that enters and wins a sheep dog trial - very sweet). Her name was Esme Hoggett.

littlemissm · 19/03/2010 16:07

And to clear up on the txt speak if you have noticed this isnt how i post usaually but time to time i choose to use it. Its nothing to do with being thick or as someone posted wanting to talk like a teenager. In my household when texting or emailing especially to my son or if he is texting or emailing this is how we do it as my son has severe Dyslexia & he finds it less frustrating to txt speak instead of battling with his spelling.I shouldnt even be justifying myself to those who want to bad mouth me for my chioce of spelling or Intentional illiteracy as one person added.

mathanxiety · 19/03/2010 16:59

gemcgem, the name Esme has been debated on MN before a few times and I think the upshot of the discussions has been that it's much more a Scottish name than a French one, although it obeys French pronunciation and spelling rules. A lot of the information on Mumsnet namefinder is very dubious. I wouldn't trust it about name origins or spelling a lot of the time, as StayingDavidTennantsGirl points out.

Spelling is important to a lot of the people a child will come in contact with in their formative years, such as teachers, etc. (who are paid to correct and teach spelling, among other things) You categorise yourself as either unaware of the right spelling of a name or deliberately trying to stand out by using an idiosyncratic spelling in the eyes of many of these people, and this could have a negative effect on how your child is perceived. There have been threads on MN about teachers' perceptions of children with unusually-spelled names or children with certain names (i.e. Callum) and the first impression they make.

Littlemissm, what's perfectly fine and understandable in your own home and family (and I do it too when I text my own DCs) is not the usual way of communicating on MN. You can choose to communicate any way you wish, but the aim of having standard spelling in any given language is to facilitate comprehension; not everyone outside of your family can easily decipher txt spk, so using it on MN rather defeats the purpose of trying to communicate. I could post in Irish and say what I wanted to say, but I don't because hardly anyone would understand it.

CinderellaRach · 19/03/2010 17:06

Some people need to get over themselves!You ask for mn's opinion and when you here something you don't like you moan and have a tantrum!

littlemissm · 19/03/2010 17:30

Mathanxiety- I dont usually use txt speak on here just on this thread i used the word Huni & was slated because i didnt spell it Honey. The other txt speak in a post i posted was to hopefully make gem feel abit better & i was showing her that i sometimes spell in that way People can go through every post i have posted & you will see i do not txt talk.I was just showing gem how i sometimes write & like i said i do this within my own household & with my children. This is the first time i have ever used txt talk on mn & when i used the word huni i spelt it with out even thinking of the proper spelling its not like i do it all the time.

LynetteScavo · 19/03/2010 17:47

littlemissm. I don't think it was the spelling of huni/honey people were commenting on, I think it was the use of the word as a term of endearment it's self. It not a word Mnetters generally use.

I'm finding your posts on this thread quite difficult to read, because of the text speak, and the lack of punctuation and capital letters, so I'm not sure how it's supposed to make gemcgem feel better.

You have chosen to spell your DS's name Jaeden, rather than the more usual spelling, and TBH, for a moment I was unsure if it was a boy or a girls name. (Forgive me if I've made a mistake here)

You and gemcgem obviously have similar taste in spelling, with isn't that of everybody, but hey.

littlemissm · 19/03/2010 21:22

lynettescavo-you clearly have not read all my posts i have not used txt speak in all but 2 & i did'nt know there was a proper way for mnetters to write or speak .My son Jaeden was registered as Jae but as he got older & children started to call him Gay Jae he asked to change it by deedpoll to Jaeden his choice of spelling & also a varient of Jayden.I was trying to let gem know that she was'nt the only one that does'nt always spell properly & that i was'nt penalising her for it.Anyway gem new what i meant.I'm just going to go & check the rules for writing on mn because i have never been corrected before now.

gemcgem · 19/03/2010 21:30

any one only bothered to read the last page , i don't care if you like esmae or not , what upset me an threw the hole thread out was people taking the mick out of my general grammar, an spelling !
I DO KNOW THE CORRECT SPELLING IS ESME /ESMEE !
i was seeing how may people would pronounce it me or may, an thought ESMAE would mean more people pronoucing MAY not ME !
in hindsight i probably should have put the question better !

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brockleybelle · 19/03/2010 21:47

I personally don't know anyone called Esme and don't recollect ever hearing the name used. A friend of a friend on facebook named her daughter Esme and I thought it was pronounced Es-me. It's only after reading this thread I've discovered it's pronounced Es-May. Therefore, I can see why gemcgem was considering what is apparently an unusual spelling. 'Esmae' actually makes more sense to me; whenever I see 'Esme' I want to say Es-ME which is ugly.

littlemissm · 19/03/2010 21:49

gem- The thread has gone from one extreme to the other as you know i also have been slated for my choice of words & for using a word of endearment.Obviosly using a name of endearment towards someone & txt speaking & now poor grammer are against the mn rules(even though there are no rules against this).This is the first thread i have ever come across that i have been told that this type of speak is not generally used by mnetters.Gem honey(using endearment as you seem a nice woman) you call your dd Esmae it is a lovely name & sometimes names need to be spelt the way they are said so they do not get pronounced wrong You might even find your way of spelling is not that unuasal after all.There could be lots of people with that name with that spelling.

littlemissm · 19/03/2010 21:55

gemcgem -I wanted to personal msg you but i can't.

gemcgem · 19/03/2010 21:58

oh i don't know why my message isn't working littlemissm ?? an thankyou huni ! x

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StuffedFullOfNothing · 19/03/2010 22:00

Lynette Scavo - itself, not it's self.

cece · 19/03/2010 22:05

I have an Esme and there are quite a lot of them around here. I know about 6. They all say it Es - me apart from one who pronounces is Esmae. I don't know how they spell their names though as never seen it written down.

I say my DD's name Es-me and we spell it Esme. I always thought the accent on the second e turned it into the Esmae pronounciation

littlemissm · 19/03/2010 22:09

gem you need to go into your my mumsnet at the top of the page & go into your settings & change the CAT setting to allow to recieve personal messages.

gemcgem · 20/03/2010 07:41

hi littlemissm all sorted now.

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overthemill · 20/03/2010 07:48

my dd has esme with an acute accent over the last e. thus es-may. named after 'for esme with love and squalor' but also nod to mil whose name is this co-incidentally. shameless sucking up to.

i hate the 'incorrect' pronunciation at es-me. sorry to one and all.

LynetteScavo · 20/03/2010 08:54

Stuffed, I'm forever going to be ripped apart for my spelling and grammar from now on, aren't I!

I did try posting in the style of Cod once, but couldn't quite pull it off.

madwomanintheattic · 20/03/2010 15:10

i've never seen a babynames thread deteriorate into a netiquette debate before, but it's quite entertaining in an odd sort of way!

anyone getting angsty (yes i know it's not a word) and trying to check 'rules for posting' (lol) needs to remember that unwritten rules of different forums (ie use of txt spk, or poor grammar and spelling) are just as important as the written ones (no personal attacks) in order to make using a particular forum a pleasurable experience for all.

and the poster who used learning disabilities as a retort should be ashamed. there are many posters on mn who use various forms of technology to enable them to post (said technology introduces spelling/ grammar issues due to the nature of english language), and if anyone dares to correct their posts, the wrath of mn descends.

generally speaking, the correct rules of netiquette require lurking for a bit to work out how not to irritate people, or at the least a read of the boards to see how others post. i have only ever seen hun etc used in a derogatory manner (or as a reference to netmums or (gulp) the pushchair threads) and as a result, never visit either. in fact, in mn classics there's a, well, classic thread which was a result of a 'visit' by some users of the netmums forum. many of these issues were lengthily debated there...

anyway, fascinating what happens when two different aspects of mn collide.

PuppyMonkey · 20/03/2010 16:06

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cece · 20/03/2010 16:09

PuppyMonkey - I agree Esmay just sounds wrong! Esme (Esmee) sounds much prettier imho.

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