Right come on then Mumsnetters, find a name for my son (shock)

[sweetkitty]

Never thought I would ever need a boys name, bit after the shock of Saturdays scan we need one.

Nothing is jumping out at me, so anyone want a try.

Here's our criteria:

1. Surname is one Syllable and starts with R, quite harsh sounding so need a name with at least 2 syllables so things like Jack are our

2. Cannot have a name starting with R

3. This child will be growing up in Scotland so more erm poncey upper class names will have him might as well having "beat me up" stamped across his forehead so names like Quentin, Augustus, Apollo, Cosmo etc are out

4. I like traditional strong boys names, not keen on your more "modern" names i.e, anything with unusual spelling or starting with a K IYSWIM

5. And of course blooming friends and family have pinched all the good ones.

So you see we have a job on our hands!

Lockets, quite often I wish that we didn't have to live here, really. I wouldn't worry about your DS coming here to visit, I don't think that many people ever do, it's not exactly a tourist hot spot .

Sk, I don't have any more name suggestions, really, but thought you might be interested in knowing this scary little tidbit. Did you go the the RC school near the three towns, St. Mick's? THis has been closed and replaced by one of those new PPP schools (as has our local secondary) and merged with St Andrew's. THe new build is in Saltcoats. So now anyone from anywhere in the LA who wants an RC education has to travel even further because there is only the one school.

I'm glad that things aren't quite so bad where you are, now. To be honest, in the little pocket where I am, things are better than anywhere else that I have lived here, but that's only in this particular scheme and, sadly, things are changing. The council used to try and keep this bit "nice" so that they could use it for publicity, but now that they have newer, shinier places to boast about, round here is going the same way as everywhere else. The police are in this street at least 4 times a week, now, and my neighbour's kids have been threatened with a "ripping" several times because, in part, they have RC names, even though they are completely non practicing and I don't know if they are actually RC or not. Lovely new neighbours are just looking for something to cause trouble about.

I can't remember if anyone has mentioned Ethan or Javan, they are quite nice names, so is Jared.

Joel - cannot have a R name either

Shortlist is:
Elliot
Matthew
Daniel
Logan (DP's fav but not getting his way)
Marcus
Lucas - buy maybe not with our surname

StressedHEMum - I didn't go to St Andrews but my DP did, neice went to St Matthews as it is now known, apparently it is horrendous nowhere big enough for the pupils that attend it. Apprently they take pupils from Irvine and beyond, the 3 Towns and Largs/West Kilbride too.

We couldn't wait to get away really, I love going back for a visit but couldn't stay there again, it is very (searches for a word) well 3 Towns, where we live now certainly is no Kelvinside or Newton Mearns but it is a bit better, I think it is becoming a dormitory town for Glasgow and Edinburgh as it has great motorway links.

The DC will all go to the closest school, a little RC Primary, am too terrified to think about them ever going to secondary yet.

DP unsure about Elliot, he says he has not gone off it but for round here he's not sure

Did anyone say Kelvin or Calvin?

Sk, Yes, St. Matt's is, apparently, a hellish place, way over crowded and one of the most violent schools in Scotland My DS1 did a couple of debates there, just before he left school and couldn't really believe how small it was considering that it is the only RC secondary in the LA. They have to take pupils from the whole of North AYrshire, all the way LArgs, West Kilbride et. all, to Glengarnock and beyond and right to Springside on the other side. Shocking really and very short sighted. That's NAC for you. To be honest, it's not just St. Matt.'s, DS1 was at school when our local secondary was rebuilt. The roll was over 1500 pupils at the time and expected to grow, so they designed the new build to hold 1200! DS1 couldn't wait to get away, they don't even have an assembly hall or anywhere to have concerts/prizegivings/parents' nights anymore and the senior common rooms are just a corner of the "atrium" where lunch is served etc. that has been boxed off with lockers.

Our little corner of the NEw TOwn is developing into a little corridor town for the city as well. You can drive from here in less than 30minutes, but there is a huge new development of nice, new build expensive houses specially aimed at commuters from Glasgow, just along the road a bit, where the council have built a handful of new houses. SO our little estate is quite rapidly turning into just another dumping ground for all the difficult people. You know the theory sbout putting them in nice areas to encourage them to behave. Take it from me, it doesn't work! The new place isn't much better to be honest, it's never out the local news because the home owners (mostly from Glasgow) can't tolerate the council house tenants and the behaviour of local Neds. I would love to get away from here to be honest, I have even asked OH if we could apply to GHA for a house because he works in GLasgow, but we have such strong ties here with the things the kids do, my church work and stuff that he's not keen. Also, there is the "better the devil you know" thing going on.

Your names are lovely, by the way. I really like Matthew, also Logan, obviously, but maybe not if you live next door to a street named Logan. You'd be struggling to call a wee boy Marcus here, to be honest, but it's a good name.

Matthew !

This has been eye-opening reading ladies

George
Alan
Ian
Peter
Philip
Simon
Thomas
William

Just trying to think of things that might not be so "loaded" and fairly neutral..., and that would also go with your surname.

Robbie

Argh sorry shoot me, just remembered no R names

StressedHEMum - they are building a new RC primary in our town capacity 500, estimated roll in 2 years when it opens 560 so they have had to rezone so it's not just NAC I think every council is so squeezed for money these days. The DDs school was built in the 70s so although an ugly grey building from the outside has bags of space inside.

Some of my relatives take the mick out of us for living in a "rough" town, this coming from the 3 Towns

Was having a look at the names outside the nursery rooms today, there was a Robert, John, Lee, Kyle, Joseph, Oliver, Callum x3, Greig, Ben, Logan, Rhys, Connor, Aidan very safe normal boys names really.

Sweetkitty, bar Oliver and Aidan, really, they are the sort of names that you find around here, regardless of denomination, particularly amongst 30+ mums. As I say, this little corner is a bit more affluent and stable than the rest of the place. The rest of the boys all have those jaiden/kaiden/denver/dallas/kyro type names, although there are less of those in this immediate area than the other areas that I have lived here. The thing is that nobody wants to stand out for fear of any potential unpleasantness. My DD was bullied so badly because of the way she speaks (her speech therapist was Irish and she has picked a little bit up) that I had to remove her from school because it was making her ill. She was only 6 years old and her name got it as well because none of the children had ever heard it before and it didn't fit with the Emma/Amy type names or the JAda/Kenzie/K'tlin ones either.

Oh yes, it's a minefield out there.

I think that your right about the councils being squeezed for cash, but the thing is that NAC knew what the rolls were when they commissioned the new schools and one of the things that they pushed at parents was the need for bigger schools to fit the growing numbers of youngsters. We will be paying for these PPP schools for the next 30 years and they were unsuitable before they were even built. Combine that with things like the teachers not being allowed to use fans or air conditioning in summer and all the heating/electricity being rationed to keep the utility bills down because only a certain amount has been figured into the contracts with Mite and it's a poor show really. Then you have to consider that the NAC PPP deals were investigated by both Strathclyde police and the Scottish government because of suspicion of corruption and kickbacks. Says it all really.

Can't believe you get a slagging for living in a "rough" town"! Although, my mother, who has lived in one of the villages attached to the town, maintains that it is a lovely little place, in spite of Strathclyde Police saying that it is the heroin capital of Scotland, a young girl being brutally assaulted in their front garden one recent Saturday night, constant police patrols and most folk being to scared to leave their homes after dark! I suppose it can be hard to see the wood for the trees, especially if you have always lived here and remember when things weren't so bad. I think that I would have had to laugh at being told my town was rough, actually. Not in a cruel way, just in a kind of incredulous way, they way I do with my mum.

That should say that my mum has lived in the village all her life. I can't believe how badly my typing skills are deteriorating. I think that I need a brain transplant.

I feel a bit sad about playing it safe with a good solid but not standing out name. Suppose I love my girls' names so much but with girls you can be a bit more flowery can't you? I know I had such strict criteria most of which I blame on DP's surname! One of the reasons I will not change mine to it as well.

DP has decided tonight we are going to tell everyone the baby's name is Apollo as it rhymes with Apollo Creed from Rocky wonder how many faces Apollo will get which actually is a cool name but would never use it.

That's rubbish about your poor DD getting bullied but kids will find anything they can. The whole school situation really does suck no one has a good word to say about St Matthews, I went to the little comp along the road next to the pool it used to have a terrible reputation and terrible exam results but I believe it has improved in recent years.

Stephen? (Stevie)
Anthony ?
Michael ?

Ciaran ? (Kieron Kieran )

sweetkitty - can't keep away from this thread.

Mackenzie/Mack popped into my head.

DS has one in his class (admittedly in London, where what is cool might be unbelievably naff in Scotland ...)

Louis is lovely and rather soft would "flow" with your "r" name
Monty - i love!
I also like Samuel
Thomas - does it matter if you know one already/

Mack or Max but then it makes me think of Eastenders lol

I don't think Mack or Max goes with our name too short

Samuel is already in the family

I think I will just have to use the name I was going to use for him if he had been a gril, Isabella and start a new unisex trend

My girls names are further down the thread

Jamieandhismagictorch - are you pondering a baby then? Maybe a DS?

sweetkitty - I have 2 DSs already - and I know what you mean about it being harder to find boys' names, although since I've been on MN I've found more.

My problem was that DH shot everything I wanted down in flames .....

Definitely not in the running for any more DCs, but I do like a bit of Baby Names to cheer me up !

BTW - Matthew is my DS2s middle name - and I sometimes wish I'd chosen it for his first name, as his first name - Charlie, has become very popular (this was pre- Charlie and Lola).

Hence my attachment to Matthew

Isabeau?

Isambard ?

Iseult

pmsl at all the Is names

James - Charlie is a lovely name but has gone really popular, it really is a difficult task finding a name you both love, there are loads of lovely names but I feel you need to fine that special one