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Evan or Ivan?

70 replies

Tkoko · 15/11/2025 10:31

Do you feel the difference between these two names? What vibe do you get for each? Thanks

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Treylime · 16/11/2025 16:37

I like Evan. Reminds me of Evan Dando.

Not keen on Ivan. Ivan the Terrible would put me off

overstimulatedhermit · 16/11/2025 16:40

I like both but if I had to choose I’d go with Ivan

Ooogle · 16/11/2025 17:03

PanderBare · 16/11/2025 16:33

@Ooogle , It’s ee (but not a y sound which if I’m thinking in Welsh is like uh ) and then van. Why would I explain it in Welsh letters???
I added the IPA.
Y as in English - like in Teddy, which isn't said as Ted-ee, is it.

Why are you still questioning me? I agreed it doesn’t rhyme with Leanne.

You originally posted that the Welsh name Ifan is not pronounced Ee-van. I replied that it is but agreed with you that the stress is equal and not all on the second syllable.

Ifan is a Welsh name and you seemed quite insistent on the pronunciation of it so I assumed you had some knowledge of phonetic Welsh and was confused when you said yv- van.

also- and not really relevant to the thread- I pronounce the y in teddy as Tedd-ee. As does everyone with my accent.

PanderBare · 16/11/2025 18:26

@Ooogle , because your answers aren't clear. I gave the IPA, which shows the syllable split and where the stress goes.

Y in Welsh is sometimes 'uh', but not always. (Bryn, Myfanwy, Llywelyn, Rhys)
ee-van would give you î-fan not ifan.

Ooogle · 16/11/2025 19:32

PanderBare · 16/11/2025 18:26

@Ooogle , because your answers aren't clear. I gave the IPA, which shows the syllable split and where the stress goes.

Y in Welsh is sometimes 'uh', but not always. (Bryn, Myfanwy, Llywelyn, Rhys)
ee-van would give you î-fan not ifan.

My answers are fine; you’re just being picky. I don’t know the IPA but it makes no difference as my answers about the Welsh name Ifan were not ambiguous.

I am fluent in Welsh so don’t need schooling on the phonetics, thanks. I know how to pronounce Ifan. I know the sounds y makes in Welsh words. On its own, y is an ‘uh’ sound, hence me referring to that phoneme. I think you need to leave it there now. The OP isn’t even considering Ifan; she’s considering Ivan which is a different name.

edited to add- i googled the î in the IPA. Like you say, it is the sound ee. That is the first sound in the name Ifan where I live in wales. Different parts of wales pronounce certain names differently. Îfan is not incorrect. Please don’t reply again about this because there’s literally nothing to add. You keep picking at me when I’ve not said anything wrong or unclear.

PanderBare · 16/11/2025 19:45

Whatever. OP was asking about Evan.

deste · 16/11/2025 19:55

Evan, i think Diana Ross has a son named Evan.

Wingingit73 · 16/11/2025 19:57

Both really bad. Old fashioned but not in a good way

Doggielovecharlotte · 16/11/2025 19:58

Neither - old fashioned

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 16/11/2025 20:00

user2848502016 · 15/11/2025 11:05

Depends how you want them pronounced. Most people would say Ivan as Eye-van and Evan will usually be pronounced Eh-van which is much nicer.
Unless you’re in Wales and spell it Ifan, which is pronounced Ee-van and is a lovely name.

As is is Efan, pronounced Ev-AN.

Silverbirchleaf · 16/11/2025 20:01

Evan - Welsh
Ivan - Russian

Ooogle · 16/11/2025 20:11

OP I much prefer Evan to Ivan. I know of a few little Evans (and some Efans which is the Welsh spelling). Lovely name. I’m not a huge fan of Ivan

HonoriaBulstrode · 16/11/2025 20:44

Evan = American 90s type name

Centuries old Welsh name.

Ivor is very Scandinavian

Isn't that Ivar, as in Ivar the Boneless? Ivor is Welsh.

MostlyGhostly · 16/11/2025 21:46

These were also my preferred boys names. DS’s dad totally vetoed Ivan as a first name and he ended up with Evan as a middle name (his paternal grandfather was Welsh so much approved of by the family). DS is now 26 and I love his name, his first name is a biblical, family name and it suits him. I feel that Evan is softer and Ivan stronger and more traditional but I like both. I also like Ivor.

Pryceosh1987 · 17/11/2025 00:41

Whatever you choose i am sure the child has a greeat future ahead of him. Ivan sounds foreign. Evan is technical specalist, Ivan is physical labour.

OSTMusTisNT · 17/11/2025 00:42

Prefer Evan to Ivan (the terrible).

PanderBare · 17/11/2025 12:43

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 16/11/2025 20:00

As is is Efan, pronounced Ev-AN.

Like in the surname Ev-ANS?

Calliopespa · 24/11/2025 22:34

Mwnci123 · 15/11/2025 11:45

Evan is lovely. Welsh associations for me- Evan James wrote the national anthem. Less keen on Ivan- makes me think of Ivan the Terrible, who I know very little about, but assume wasn't lovely.

Me too: Evan Welsh, Ivan as in Ivan the Terrible.

But oddly I prefer the latter. Evan makes me think of a middle aged bloke who likes gardening and wears slippers when he comes inside, and Ivan makes me think of ... Ivan the Terrible, which is a bit more exciting.

schoolsoutforever · 25/11/2025 11:58

I like the name Ivan. Sounds more interesting somehow for me. Evan is (I think - correct if wrong) a Welsh name but I remember it more from 90s American bands/films. That said, most people may not have that association and it is a very nice name too. Both good choices in my opinion.

PanderBare · 25/11/2025 12:02

@schoolsoutforever , Evan is the anglicised form of Ifan, which has been very popular in Wales in recent decades. It's a nice name.

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