Kaiden/Kayden

[GagCity]

What is it about the name Kaiden/Kayden that people don’t like?

I’ve seen comments like, ‘well at least it’s not Kaiden/Kayden’ or ‘I can’t stand those Kaiden/Kayden/Jaiden names.’ I even saw someone say, ‘all the Kaiden/Jaiden and Mary-Louise act like X in my area.’

I’m just curious really!

You mean their fathers thought they would turn out like John Wayne?!

@WearyAuldWumman I was going to say "Lahyphena" 😅

Ladasha is just hideous.

I'm half Eastern European. My dad didn't push for a name from his homeland for me, but some of his pals did for their children.

Eastern European girls' names are normally not too problematic, though "Olga" can have unfortunate stereotypical connotations. (I have a few in my family, but they don't live in the west.) However, boys' names can cause a bit of grief.

I have some relatives whose parents later anglicised their forenames via deed poll: eg., Krsto became Christopher. I also have some acquaintances whose parents named the boys in the family after the grandfathers. Fine if you're named after Grandfather Andrew. Not so fine if you're named after Grandad Bogdan.

Bingo.

You’ve misunderstood what I said. Of course I knew that there were views and attitudes towards some types of names, I just didn’t know that Kaiden/Jaiden were one of them until very recently!

:D I'm in Scotland, but apparently at least one has also been spotted in Australia.

A Dundonian colleague once swore blind that they had a Klamydia at their school, but I've not been able to confirm that.

It's just snobbery.
All names are made up. Nobody is picking ripe names off the name trees in the naming orchards.
It's just that names are supposed to have been made up long enough ago to sound familiar and comfortable in order to be approved of. Hence the religious texts thing.

I’m really grateful for the responses on this thread because when I’ve asked a poster what it is they don’t like about Kaiden/Jaiden names, they never respond back to me.

From what I can see, a few don’t like the name as it isn’t traditional or because it’s a ‘made up’ or ‘low end’ name. However, the majority don’t like the name because of the negative association that comes with the name. A lot of people take the name and base it on the type of family the child is most likely to come from.

I’ll be honest, I’ve always considered a name to be a name. Never had any assumptions on a person based solely on their name but I obviously knew this existed. Whenever I haven’t liked a name, I just haven’t liked it because of how it sounded or because I couldn’t imagine calling my child that name. Not because of anything else really.

I still love the name Kaiden for my son😂 but it’s interesting to know what other people would think/assume about us because of it. I won’t dare to say my daughters name, now she really does have a made up name!

@GagCity I see!! It was a bit given Black kids spend an inordinate amount of time at odds with teacher X, police officer Y, hcp Z. So a bit of snobbery over a name is light work.

Klamydia, of course with a "Y"! 😳

I work in NHS admin and there is a child with "Mazin" as middle name and I dread to think that it's come from "amazing"

Aidan is an Irish name and an old one too. It doesn’t belong in that list!

It’s a horrible thing to say. Kaiden isn’t to my personal taste but IIRC two very troubled little boys were called Robert and Jonathan, good old solid middle class names, weren’t they?

More recently we have Scarlett and Eddie: two more nice MN approved names.

Really unpleasant thread.

True😅

Yes, a racist myth

It’s a class thing. As much as it makes us uncomfortable, Britain is a hugely class-based society. And we choose our baby’s name either due to being influenced by our class, or to try to appear a different class to the one we are.

Upper-class and upper-middle-class people don’t call their children Kaiden. There are some names which are exclusively upper class and the rest of us look ridiculous if we emulate them (they are ridiculous too, but they get away with it because of the massive buffer of privilege they have): Jolyon, St John, Septimus etc. The names of Jacob Rees-Mogg’s children, basically. These are paradoxically often names which are rejected by the truly upper class (ie Royalty).

Then there are names which the upper and middle classes both like and are favoured by royalty, but they are not as commonly chosen by the working class. Think Edward, Elizabeth, Henry.

Then there are names which are popular in all classes and it’s genuinely hard to tell a person’s background from the name alone: Matthew, James, Charlotte, Thomas, Harriet, Grace, Georgia, Victoria would be examples. There are loads.

Then there are names which are more exclusively middle and working class and as likely to be chosen by either. These tend to be popular and come and go in waves. Currently I would put Evie, Lily, Oliver, Harry, Ava in this category. Historically you’d be looking at names such as Gemma, Lauren, Nicola.

Finally there are names which are more exclusively working class. Kaiden, Jayden, Neveah, hyphenated names such as Lillie-Mae. There’s nothing wrong with these names! But they are definitely associated with a working class background, rather than being neutral.

It's like a made up American name. Awful

You've explained that really well. When I was a TA it was Cain/Cane. You don't start with a prejudice about that name, it's usually names that have recently spiked in popularity anyway, but you can't help seeing patterns. Somehow unstable home lives link with choosing the latest trend name? It sounds mad but...

I’m sure there will be equivalents in MC schools that tend to signify challenging parents, but I've never worked in a MC cohort school.

What's wrong with American names?

Nail on head @Tygertiger !!

I work in schools and the kids with made up names are definitely more likely to have behavioural issues, bad attitudes etc. Often parents that choose these types of names aren't the best role models.

It's because it's not a real name. Any variation of this name is just icky to me.

I sincerely hope that none of you with your name prejudices do not work in schools. You have written these children off just on their names.

Icky? Are you 5?

@Maroonedjam let me guess what your kid's name is...

Then you would be wrong.