Kaiden/Kayden

[GagCity]

What is it about the name Kaiden/Kayden that people don’t like?

I’ve seen comments like, ‘well at least it’s not Kaiden/Kayden’ or ‘I can’t stand those Kaiden/Kayden/Jaiden names.’ I even saw someone say, ‘all the Kaiden/Jaiden and Mary-Louise act like X in my area.’

I’m just curious really!

Seem out for a fight because I’m asking people why they don’t like a name? What a strange comment

WTF does 'low end' mean?

It's not Mumsnet thing, to be fair - Jayden and Kayden are names that would be considered chavvy by most people, whether they admit it or not, in the same way that Sharon and Wayne are seen as chavvy. There is nothing wrong with the names themselves - they have become popular because they are nice sounding names! Well, maybe not Wayne, but all the other ones.

I wouldn't have thrown Mary Louise in with the other two, but maybe it is a local thing?!

I can actually imagine some people thinking like this so that does make sense in a way

How can a name be low end?! What does that even mean😂

I retired from my permanent post in 2018 (Scotland) and didn't encounter one child of that name in all my time teaching. Only when I went back to work this year did I come across a handful, so that makes sense.

Have just looked up the records for Scotland: More than 2,700 born here between 1998 and now. Also a handful of girls called Kaydence. (I've not come across that before.) Two female Kaydens in '98 and tiny number later. The first male Kayden appears in 2003.

I'm about as working class as they come so no prejudice or anything here. I've lived and taught in inner city Birmingham and rural Wales, and every child with the name (and rhyming ones, exper for Aidan) have been white and adhere to a particular sterotype.

I hate classism of any description but let's not beat about the bush, there are stereotypes. Every child that I've known with that name, both personally and professionally, have been in families where education doesn't appear to be valued, they're exposed to language and media that is not appropriate for their age, families that haven't had anyone working for generations, absent parents, and they've all been poorly behaved. This isn't a judgement on them or their parents, it's being a product of their environment.

I don't believe anyone could struggle to understand that?

@GagCity I haven't said that a name has to come from the Bible or the Quran, I said that a real name has its roots in a language, I included Mohamed just to add another name that wasn't Christian.
There are Japanese, Korean, Thai, Indian and a million other names that are rooted in ancient languages. Kaydens, Jayden's and Braidens apparently don't fit that criteria.

Having said that, it's not my child so I'm not fussed. Other people can call their kids "table" and "chair" for all I care, they won't be my kids (thank God for that 😅)

I commented earlier that a certain behavioural expert asserted that certain fathers insisted on Wayne as a name because they saw it as manly.

I taught a great many Waynes at one point, and that does tie in with the fathers that I met. In terms of behaviour etc., the kids varied a great deal.

It's a name that's very popular ... Cayden,

Jayden, Hayden.
The more it's popular , the more it becomes associated with bad behaviour.

Parents want to name their children with 'unique' names which then suddenly become really popular. Twas always thus.
Unfortunately, as names become really popular you'll get two Hayden's, three Caydens and one Jayden in a class. Of the six, at least one or two will be a little oik.

It was the same with Joshua and Johnny a few years ago. Too many of them which meant one or two of them were troublesome.

It was the same in the 60s. Michaels, Janes, Traceys, Lorraines, Neils etc...
if too many parents name their children the same then the proportion of children with those names will become unpopular.

The only Kaiden I know is a little shit.

It's a sort of.meaningless noise of a name.
Mind you everyone was saying how much they liked James on here and to me, that's like a blank gap instead of a name. Bland as a piece of cardboard.

Read the teenage board on here, Do you think every single teenager who has gone off the rails is called Kaiden?

I've taught many Kayden/Jayden/Haydens. Also Jordans and Jaxons which are in the same vein.

They have all been white, but do come from a particular type of family, at least in my area. Free school meals, deprivation type families.

What about all the other real problems people have with their kids on here? Do they all have 'chav' names?

I can't speak for others, but in a school setting you're just as likely - sometimes more likely - to have behavioural problems with middle-class kids.

As for names, I'd say that many traditional names are disappearing.

You should consider yourself rather lucky? (not sure if that's the right term), if you're a Black woman and mother who is only now learning about the views and attitudes of some about names, and especially particular types of names. As in it's always been something of an oddity or baffling to you. I think there is a lot in a name so I'd always hope that parents err on the side of caution given their baby will one day hopefully be an adult and for the most part rely on others' perception of them not even to get ahead but in their day-to-day existence.

"La-a"? Are the parents singing teachers?

There is an interesting book about how the name of a child influences their economic outlook- I can't remember the name of it, unfortunately. This name may be one.

Nope. Do you want to guess how it's pronounced? Please. Pretty please.

There's a clue in what I said about the punctuation.

Seen this one - Ladasha!!

La-a is a myth.