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Husband or mine names part 2

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Depakote · 24/07/2022 19:27

Hey, it's me again lol. Baby is born, and it's girl. She still doesn't have a name.

Husband and I are still "arguing" about the name because he is picking , what I find, a ridiculous name! He dropped the "Harper-Rose" when I showed him the comments. But now he's determined to have her named "Levi-Lily" Please tell me it ridiculous because his mother thinks it's a good name.

We both like the name Alba, but he keeps saying she looks like a Levi-Lily. No. She does not. Anyone like his choice?

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Quartz2208 · 25/07/2022 12:52

Oh OP grooming you at such a young age has meant you think this is what you want.

I am surprised actually that you have already not been flagged by the midwives as being a concern - I would if I was the Health Visitor flag safeguard concerns about this.

What you are describing is a highly controlling abusive relationship. I suspect the name thing is the first time you have ever challenged him

I suspect this must be very difficult to hear though OP a whole lot of strangers challenging you about this

Depakote · 25/07/2022 13:04

FurAndFeathers · 25/07/2022 12:43

You’re in a coercive controlling relationship.
its abusive.

a much older man ‘groomed’ you as a 17 year old teen, severed you from your family support and now won’t let you out alone. He’s controlling and abusive.

@Depakote do you have any friends hobbies or a support network outside of your husband and his over involved mother? Any access to finances?

I suspect not.
please seek advice from Womens Aid

Thanks. No, I stopped studying because he didn't want to. To be honest, I don't know much about finances, I am a bit stupid. But he's the one who take cares of me financially. I don't have a bank card or bank account so he normally just gives me cash, or I use his.

As for hobbies, yes but I do them at home. I have my parents as a support network, even if they hate my husband, I still spend time with them

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Quartz2208 · 25/07/2022 13:08

Oh OP your posts are some of the saddest I have seen. Who says you are stupid - the way you write you posts is actually both eloquent and grammatically correct (sometimes better than mine and I have a Masters!)

Will you be allowed to go to baby groups? Make friends actually leave the house with your baby?

Depakote · 25/07/2022 13:10

Quartz2208 · 25/07/2022 12:52

Oh OP grooming you at such a young age has meant you think this is what you want.

I am surprised actually that you have already not been flagged by the midwives as being a concern - I would if I was the Health Visitor flag safeguard concerns about this.

What you are describing is a highly controlling abusive relationship. I suspect the name thing is the first time you have ever challenged him

I suspect this must be very difficult to hear though OP a whole lot of strangers challenging you about this

Thank you. Even if I am challenged, I don't mind , if it can me see things from another perspective.

It's hard to understand though, because he's been there all my life I feel. So this is normal to me. He did tell me though that when he saw me to the first time, he knew he'd married me one day. So I am happy he has chosen me. He is very caring, intelligent.

This is the first time we argue about anything or I say no. Now that I have a baby, I want to protect her from anything, so I am not going to allow a stupid name and ruin her life.

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AppleBottomRats · 25/07/2022 13:13

When he saw you the first time aged 6 he wanted to marry you and you don’t think that’s weird?!

xalo · 25/07/2022 13:14

@Depakote
Stick to your guns on this. It will be a true test of your relationship and may or may not confirm pps concerns.
Come back and update us please!

PancakesWithCheese · 25/07/2022 13:16

Do you have friends?

As he’s all you’ve known I don’t think you realise how much of what you write is just so not part of a normal healthy relationship.

SunshineAndFizz · 25/07/2022 13:20

Erm. So. This thread has taken an unexpectedly dark turn.

OP if this is real I'm so sorry, I really hope you're ok. Please know that it is NOT normal not to be allowed out by yourself or even have a bank card.

Horriblewoman · 25/07/2022 13:22

Oh gosh I was reading this thinking what ridiculous names he's suggesting but actually this has taken a really horrible turn. With a young baby you're probably not in the right headspace to hear this but you are in a coercive, controlling relationship and it's likely he groomed you. I hope in time you're able to see this and have the opportunity to leave this man.

Sandysandwich · 25/07/2022 13:25

He knew he would marry you from age 6?
Only going on what you have written that is not a caring and intelligent man that is a manipulative creep, he waited until you were 'legal' and isolated you from your family and from the rest of the world.
I am sorry that this is normal for you because it shouldn't be, its a bit alarming.

jalapenita · 25/07/2022 13:30

Your husband knew you when you were 6 and he was mid 20s... is that not creepy to you? He's also sexist and awful at choosing names. Good luck parenting with him Hmm

prisscalledwanda · 25/07/2022 13:45

OP, do you think there is any way you could show this thread to your midwife or health visitor?

babyjellyfish · 25/07/2022 13:48

Depakote · 25/07/2022 12:08

No. Because he is always worried for me. So the only way to calm his anxiety is for me to not go out without him. If I do he will call me like 20 times and I can't have a good time. Even when he's at work, he calls me all the time , and on the landline to make sure I am home. He is very anxious and worries about me.

Good lord. He is abusing you. If he's been in your life since you were six years old, you've never been with anyone else and you aren't allowed male friends, you don't realise it because you have no idea what normal looks like.

babyjellyfish · 25/07/2022 13:50

Depakote · 25/07/2022 13:04

Thanks. No, I stopped studying because he didn't want to. To be honest, I don't know much about finances, I am a bit stupid. But he's the one who take cares of me financially. I don't have a bank card or bank account so he normally just gives me cash, or I use his.

As for hobbies, yes but I do them at home. I have my parents as a support network, even if they hate my husband, I still spend time with them

You don't come across as stupid at all.

You come across as a bright, intelligent woman who wants the best for her daughter but has been controlled by a predatory man since the age of six.

stopthepain · 25/07/2022 13:59

@Depakote He did tell me though that when he saw me to the first time, he knew he'd married me one day. So I am happy he has chosen me. He is very caring, intelligent.

He’s known you since you were 6 years old. He’s a paedo. You’re also in a controlling relationship:

psychcentral.com/lib/signs-controlling-partner-relationship#signs-of-a-controlling-partner

  1. They make decisions for you

There’s a blurry line between attentiveness and pressure. But it may be the latter if your partner routinely makes decisions for you. This is controlling behavior.

Perhaps they always insist on driving you everywhere, or they hog time in your schedule.

They may also make arrangements with your friends without asking you first, or they may paint or redecorate according to their taste only.

If they disagree with the way you dress, they might tell you so, or they could start slowly “changing your wardrobe” by buying specific outfits as gifts to you.

  1. They’re overprotective

Caring for you isn’t the same as controlling you, though sometimes it may be difficult for you to tell them apart.

A partner may be overprotective if they question who you’ve gone out with, get upset if you don’t answer a phone call right away, or act jealous of your friends and family.

They may also assume that you’re only safe when they’re around, or they may ask you to consult with them every time you’re making a decision about your life.

A controlling partner may be on top of your medical appointments, draw a special diet for you, or advise you against that coworker they don’t like.

Any of these behaviors on their own might not mean anything in particular. But if your partner or spouse repeatedly acts this way and won’t take your interests, needs, and opinions into account, they might be trying to control you.

  1. They play the blame game

A controlling person can have a hard time taking responsibility for their actions.

You may confront a controlling boyfriend, only to find that they’ve somehow turn it back around on you. You may even find yourself apologizing for something you didn’t know you needed to be sorry for.

For example, let’s say you’ve been texting your close friend about your relationship difficulties. While you’re in the shower, your girlfriend goes onto your phone and reads those private messages, then gets mad at you for what they saw.

Instead of admitting that they invaded your privacy in the first place, they might shift the blame to you in order to avoid responsibility for their choices. This is a sign of controlling behavior in relationships.

  1. They criticize you

This is more than a careless remark here or there — after all, we all have our bad days.

Criticism can look like making jokes about you in front of other people, disparaging the way you dress, or always pointing out mistakes — like the one place you forgot to shave your legs or a little bit of dust you forgot to clean on the floor.

Over time, constant criticism can erode your sense of self-confidence, and it may also lead you to act in certain ways to avoid being criticized.

  1. They micromanage you

A controlling romantic partner may try to prevent you from living your life as you typically would. They might:

tell you what you can wear or how you should wear your hair
pressure you to stay at a certain weight
try to control your finances
prevent you from getting medical care or seeing a therapist
tell you when you can go to work or school
hide your school or work materials from you
A controlling partner may also show this tendency in everyday situations. For example, they could:

always ask you about your conversations when you hang up the phone
check what you just got out of the fridge
supervise what you buy at the grocery store

  1. They isolate you from others

Isolating behavior can be subtle, like tuning out the conversation when you share stories about other people or giving you an eye roll when you answer phone calls.

It can also be more overt.

A controlling partner may complain about how much time you spend with other people, like friends or family. They may put down your loved ones or say that they’re a bad influence on you. They may even act in certain ways that create friction when your friends or family are around.

They can also isolate you by demanding your attention with a crisis, in order to prevent you from following through on plans with other people. They might give you the silent treatment whenever you choose to spend time with someone else.

  1. They gaslight you

The term “gaslight” is inspired by the 1944 film of the same name. In it, a husband slowly leads his wife to believe she’s losing her mind by doing things like dimming the gaslights and then pretending that he didn’t.

A controlling partner may downplay an experience, like an angry outburst, and then accuse you of being overly sensitive. They may also say something hurtful, then follow it up with, “It was just a joke. You’re being dramatic.” This is gaslighting.

They may even deny saying things, lie to you or tell you that your gut instinct is wrong. At times, they may even ask you to seek help, saying that you’re losing your grip on reality.

  1. They invade your privacy

A controlling partner may demand to see your recent chat history, or they may read your diary while you’re at work. They may also constantly ask what you’re thinking or how you’re feeling.

They may monitor your activity, like following you in their car, watching how many steps you take on Fitbit, or keeping track of what you’re doing through social media or searching on Google.

They may also ask to have your passwords and present it as “if you have nothing to hide, why wouldn’t I have those?” You have the right to your privacy and demanding you don’t is a sign of a controlling partner.

  1. They trespass on your boundaries

If you say “no” to something, a controlling partner may try to talk you out of it. This can look like pressuring you to change your mind or arguing with you about why you’re wrong.

This goes for physical boundaries as well. For example, you make plans with someone else and let your partner know that you’re going to be unavailable, but your partner shows up at your house uninvited.

babyjellyfish · 25/07/2022 14:11

OP, how would you feel about having this thread moved to the relationships board?

Depakote · 25/07/2022 14:14

He's not a pedo. I am not 6 anymore or 17, and he's still with me. I have fond memories with him, when he used to babysit me and we'd play games or go to the movies.

It's true that it sounds creepy , but what he meant is that he thinks I always was special. He never forced me to do anything. I consented to it.

I ran away from home as soon as I turned 18 to be with him. I wanted to.

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DemelzaRobins · 25/07/2022 14:25

Oh OP, this not a healthy relationship for you, at all.

The age gap is a huge red flag and I say this as the child of parents with a large age gap but the younger parent was late 20s when I was born.

You were only 17 when you got together. You are now only 23 and married and have a child.

Your H has caused a rift in your family. He has stopped you studying. He doesn't ensure you have equal access to money. He doesn't let you have male friends and he follows you around and checks up on you to 'manage his anxiety'.

He is now insisting on giving your little girl a boy's name and doesn't respect your opinion as your daughter's mother and as the person who carried and birthed your daughter.

This isn't a loving marriage of equals. He doesn't respect you as a person, as his wife, or as your daughter's mother.

He doesn't respect women in general - it's why he wants to give your daughter a boy's name and to keep 'trying for a boy'.

How were your midwife appointments? Did he insist on attending them all too?

babyjellyfish · 25/07/2022 14:34

Depakote · 25/07/2022 14:14

He's not a pedo. I am not 6 anymore or 17, and he's still with me. I have fond memories with him, when he used to babysit me and we'd play games or go to the movies.

It's true that it sounds creepy , but what he meant is that he thinks I always was special. He never forced me to do anything. I consented to it.

I ran away from home as soon as I turned 18 to be with him. I wanted to.

He was a 32 year old man who met a six year old girl and decided he wanted to marry her. That's not even remotely normal.

You aren't allowed to have male friends.

You aren't allowed to go out without him, and on the rare occasions that he does let you, he harasses you with constant phone calls.

You gave up your education and clearly have a low opinion of yourself and your own abilities.

You don't have access to your own money.

Do you work? Have you ever worked?

All of these things are massive red flags.

The only positive points I can see about your situation is that you still have a relationship with your family, and you clearly have a strong instinct to do the right thing for your daughter and protect her from harm. Trust that instinct, because your desire to protect her needs to be much bigger than just stopping your husband from giving her a stupid name.

Quartz2208 · 25/07/2022 14:50

The name Alba though is very apt considering it is from Time Travellers Wife where she did indeed meet her husband when she was 6!

PancakesWithCheese · 25/07/2022 14:57

Moving away from how your relationship started.

It is absolutely not healthy or normal or ok for a man to prevent a woman from going out by themselves, then to constantly check up on them because of their ‘anxiety’. This is not ok!

Its not cute or sweet or that he’s worried. It’s none of those. It’s controlling and abusive.

It’s not ok for a man to prevent a woman from attending education. It’s controlling and abusive. The correct response is to support and encourage you.

It is not ok for a man to control the finances, this can also be financial abuse.

It is not ok to be told you cannot have male friends.

Just think about the example this is going to be setting for your DD as she grows up. You don’t have any idea of a normal functioning relationship because you’ve never had one, and your DD will copy this.

His behaviour is not and has never been, ok. To be honest, it’s fucking alarming.

Depakote · 25/07/2022 15:00

@babyjellyfish

You know what, you are maybe right. If a man looked at my daughter when she'll be 6, I'd be f-g furious. It is disgusting.

No I have never worked. When I turned 18, I moved in with him. I completed a year of uni course, but he was upset with me, and anxious. So I stopped. But all couples have to compromise, so I think it's OK.

He is really not the abusive type. He's nice to me, that's why I feel bad when he's anxious or stressed because of me. He's at work all day, but I share my location so he can check where I am. If I need to run errands, I wait for him.

The only thing that really really p*ss me off is the clothes he buys me. I'd love to buy my own clothes, he buys clothes that make me look like a pornstar. Fkin annoying.

Yes I still have a good relationship with my parents. They are both begging me to leave him and come back.

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Quartz2208 · 25/07/2022 15:06

Oh OP he is definitely 100% abusive - he is nice because that is what gets you to do what he does.

Here is a question - since you have for the first time pushed back has he being so nice to you. Has he ever compromised or is it all you. Abusers come in many different shapes and forms and violence and aggression is only one. This is a far more horrify type of abuse where you have been groomed since you are a young child

The brutal truth is that if you appeared with you child at a playgroup/nursery etc wearing the clothes that you say that he wears and told me your story I would report you to social services. Because I would believe that your daughter would be at risk from her father.

PancakesWithCheese · 25/07/2022 15:09

I’m starting to hope this isn’t real as the last post is just horrifying.

Depakote · 25/07/2022 15:12

PancakesWithCheese

I am confused? Which part do you wish was not real ? I don't think I said anything shocking.

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