Enola for DD?

[scarletm]

me and DH watched Enola Holmes recently with his nieces and would love the same name for DD. We do thinks it's a little different though! Any thoughts??

@MsTSwift

Struggling to think of a name with worse connotations tbh. Myra?

Adolf?

'That reflects on our education system as much as it does on you personally.'

I mean that's just mean, in my book.

If you feel like having a go at someone how about the two posters (I think) who have said Hiroshima wasn't an atrocity etc.

I'm not having a go at anyone, but I have already responded to those posts above.

I mean that's just mean, in my book

I'm sorry if it came across that way, it was not intended to. My point was that the school system is clearly failing people.

CatRamsey I definitely feel this is society's failing, not yours.

I'm really sorry if anything here is upsetting you.

I vaguely know a nuclear bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. But that’s pretty much it

Vaguely? Did you never think to look a little further?

Do you know about the Holocaust, vaguely, just a little bit?

Neither was it taught about it in my school but I knew about it as did most people; Hiroshima Day is August 6th every year. There was also Nagasaki.

@Onceuponatimethen @AlexaShutUp

I'm not sure how knowing the name of a plane could significantly impact my decisions in life...

@Westfacing

I vaguely know a nuclear bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. But that’s pretty much it

Vaguely? Did you never think to look a little further?

Do you know about the Holocaust, vaguely, just a little bit?

No I haven’t. Hasn’t even occurred to me to. Doesn’t make me a bad person for not knowing about it, life as an adult is very busy.

The Holocaust I know a lot about, the planes and British side I’ve learnt a lot about from museums, growing up in a Jewish area with Jewish friends and grandparents who lived through the war.

But no I haven’t ever sat down and googled about it, read a book about it or watched a film about it. I did watch when the wind blows when I was young (probably far too young) which is where my nuclear bomb knowledge pretty much starts and stopped.

I'm not sure how knowing the name of a plane could significantly impact my decisions in life...

I'm not talking about the name of the plane. In fact, I haven't commented on the fact that many people apparently don't know the name Enola Gay. I'm not particularly surprised about that tbh, nor am I particularly bothered. What I am surprised and bothered about is that people have never heard about what happened in Hiroshima.

@ScarMatty you said you didn’t know about Hiroshima.

Literally can’t think of one adult I personally think of as being well educated who wouldn’t know what Hiroshima involved.

If you think that’s equivalent to just not remembering the name of the plane then that is sad in itself.

@Onceuponatimethen

You're quite opinionated, and not in a good way

As I said earlier, you can’t understand the end of WWII without knowing about it.

Or understand the global approach to nuclear weapons control

Or arguably the Cold War

Also hugely important in human rights terms

No, I think you will find @ScarMatty that there are some things we should call out. I think you are ashamed which is why you are being so defensive

@Onceuponatimethen

As I said earlier, you can’t understand the end of WWII without knowing about it.

Or understand the global approach to nuclear weapons control

Or arguably the Cold War

Also hugely important in human rights terms

Another shock here... I know absolutely sod all about the Cold War!

Thank you EvilPea

Well I've never googled it, read a book, or made it a particular point of interest but somehow know the basic details and history.

This is not aimed at you, but dropping a nuclear bomb, followed by another, was such a momentous moment in human history that I can't believe so many people have such little knowledge.

Of course, what is equally unknown is that the Americans considered nuking Germany before the end the war in Europe, but of course they didn't.

Now, I wonder why that was?

Literally can’t think of one adult I personally think of as being well educated who wouldn’t know what Hiroshima involved

Have you heard the phrase echo chamber?
We can surround ourselves with people who are the same, and therefore have the same experiences, life and views.

I feel like this is one of those things.

I am educated to A levels, A*’s and A’s in everything except maths. Couldn’t afford uni, but was clever enough to go.

Genuine question, scarmatty - and I am not trying to have a dig - but how do you make sense of what is going on in the world in the present day if you don't have any context as to how we got to where we are now?

@EvilPea I agree. The pp were commenting on education in this context

...Should have stayed at home yesterday.

I only know what the song was about because I read about it in some magazine circa 1988. I was never taught in school. It's general knowledge that many people may not be aware of.

But no, I couldn't call my DD Enola.

@AlexaShutUp

Genuine question, scarmatty - and I am not trying to have a dig - but how do you make sense of what is going on in the world in the present day if you don't have any context as to how we got to where we are now?

In all honesty if I'm curious enough about something then I research it. But so far in my life nothing has happened that has required that. My time and effort, currently, are focused on other things

I’ve actually spent a long time googling and watching things trying to find out how Germany reported the war, how hitler persuaded people the Jews And others needed killing.

I’ve never found the answers despite hours of trying to find it. I know they were kings of propaganda. But that’s all I’ve known

I bet op didn’t think her name choice would be quite this controversial

ScarMatty I'm not into blaming anyone for what they don't know. As I say, it's society's failing and I maintain that. But the list of things you say you know little or nothing about means you cannot understand why the world is the way it is, why Brexit for instance, why the EU, why Angela Merkel, why the arms race, why almost every existing war tendency and tension has evolved the way it has. And that's what will lead us into further wars. Those who don't understand history are destined to repeat it. (Edmund Burke.) That's why people are so upset.

I HATE it!

@giletrouge

ScarMatty I'm not into blaming anyone for what they don't know. As I say, it's society's failing and I maintain that. But the list of things you say you know little or nothing about means you cannot understand why the world is the way it is, why Brexit for instance, why the EU, why Angela Merkel, why the arms race, why almost every existing war tendency and tension has evolved the way it has. And that's what will lead us into further wars. Those who don't understand history are destined to repeat it. (Edmund Burke.) That's why people are so upset.

I totally understand. I honestly know very little, if any, about the things you've just listed.

But then you could argue that people in generations before me knew everything, and yet the wars still continue, life still isn't fantastic, so has it really prevented anything?