Enola for DD?

[scarletm]

me and DH watched Enola Holmes recently with his nieces and would love the same name for DD. We do thinks it's a little different though! Any thoughts??

Thank you CatRamsey and ScarMatty too. I'm trying to digest this.

Educated in England in a top private school

I'd be utterly appalled if I had paid for a "good" education for my dc and they came out of it without a basic awareness of significant events in history that are so important for the present day world. Your school really failed you in that respect, ScarMatty.

If people lack a basic knowledge of history, I guess it's no wonder that we end up with bad political decisions being made in the present. You can't learn from the past if you don't know about it.

I’m shocked by that @ScarMatty on a number of levels:

Knowing about it = crucial to understanding the end of WWII

Also crucial to understanding the global approach to nuclear weapons control

On a human rights front a major atrocity

Enola = Fhionnuala
Finula might be okay I guess maybe - anyone?
I prefer the Irish spelling to make me think less atom bomb and more Derry Girls chip shop.

I'm 38, no idea what Ebola Gay is but how can anyone not have heard of Hiroshima? I remember going to an art gallery with lots of art themed around it and I have a book, a young yeen book, about it. It must have been covered in school hence the trip to the art gallery. Have they really stopped teaching it??

@SeanCailleach never met a Finula but I know a Finola. Not mad about the name - even when it's Fionnuala - but certainly an improvement on Enola 😂

I love Finula for Derry Girls

Neola is a nice name instead?

God I’m astounded that people don’t know the story of Hiroshima. It’s the key event of the 20th century - probably the central event of scientific advancement in its entirety. Honestly shocked.

I had a terrible education and didn’t learn it at school. You just learn it being part of humanity.

oh no. Enola HOlmes, yes yes, but really it is too much like Ebola

I'm appalled - DS1 (21) didn't know what the Enola Gay was. I was confident that he would!

DS2 should know though as he's been to Hiroshima.

God help us!

Not knowing the name of the plane is understandable, regardless of age, but not knowing of Hiroshima is unbelievable in a grown adult.

You don't have to have been taught it at school but surely people have heard of nuclear bombs and the two times they have been used?

You don't have to have been taught it at school but surely people have heard of nuclear bombs and the two times they have been used?

It does show a remarkable lack of basic general knowledge. I can't quite get my head around it.

I'm mildly surprised that so many people are unaware of the name of the plane but really shocked that anyone wouldn't know at least the basic facts of what happened in Hiroshima. It is only a few months since the 75th anniversary of the end of WW2 and the media, of all types, was full of information on the subject. How did anyone miss that?

I am so rarely shocked but it's true that anyone adult not knowing about Hiroshima has really floored me. The world would hardly make sense - it is much, much more defining of us all than 9/11.

@SleepingStandingUp

I'm 38, no idea what Ebola Gay is but how can anyone not have heard of Hiroshima? I remember going to an art gallery with lots of art themed around it and I have a book, a young yeen book, about it. It must have been covered in school hence the trip to the art gallery. Have they really stopped teaching it??

I’m 40 and it wasn’t taught in my school

I’m 40 and it wasn’t taught in my school

But presumably, you have learned about it outside of school?

@AlexaShutUp

I’m 40 and it wasn’t taught in my school

But presumably, you have learned about it outside of school?

Not the plane name or anything like that. I vaguely know a nuclear bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. But that’s pretty much it. I am someone who goes to plane museums which normally cover the British side of ww2 and we are big horrible history fans in this house.

I had grandparents who lived through world war 2 and they were alive when I was, I did talk to them a lot about it. But that side of it, never came up.

It’s a little like questions on mastermind, they are easy if you know the answers. Common knowledge isn’t common for everyone

Wow, I had no idea not knowing something made me such an awful human being. I can't help that I've never come across it in my life before.

I am actively suicidal and these comments really aren't helping.

Wow I really enjoyed that OMD fix. Thanks.

Enola Gay would put me off for sure. Not a good association.

CatRamsey, nobody is saying that you're an awful human being at all, they are merely expressing great surprise that there are adults who don't know about major historical events of this nature. That reflects on our education system as much as it does on you personally.

I'm really sorry to hear that you're feeling suicidal, but to be fair, nobody could have known this. People tend to be fairly forthright on these boards, so MN might not be the right place for you right now if you're feeling fragile. Or maybe you should just stick to the support threads? Do you have access to support in real life? If not, is there someone you can talk to - a friend, family member or your GP? Even the Samaritans?

Struggling to think of a name with worse connotations tbh. Myra?

@MsTSwift

Struggling to think of a name with worse connotations tbh. Myra?

Someone was asking about Myra a few weeks ago....

Alexa this is a baby names post.

Saying people should expect cut and thrust on this board is a bit strong.

Cut her some slack.

It's not a personal failing. A lot of people don't know a lot of stuff about a lot of stuff. Because not everyone can know everything.

If you feel like having a go at someone how about the two posters (I think) who have said Hiroshima wasn't an atrocity etc.