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Enola for DD?

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scarletm · 27/09/2020 18:56

me and DH watched Enola Holmes recently with his nieces and would love the same name for DD. We do thinks it's a little different though! Any thoughts??

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TheVanguardSix · 28/09/2020 11:18

Oh God. First though, Hiroshima. The negative association of that name will last longer than Little Boy's half-life: 700 million years.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 28/09/2020 11:18

@BalloonRide

80k people died instantly with thousands literally vanishing leaving only shadows due to the heat of the bomb. 200k died in the next few days. Thousands were left with skin literally melted off. Millions died over the subsequent decades with various cancers caused by the bomb, including unborn babies developing leukaemia in the womb.

But according to @Bwlch it wasnt an atrocity.

You could possibly argue that the first bomb wasn't an atrocity (though personally I would disagree with you).

However, the second, on Nagasaki, was totally unnecessary and a brutal and deliberate waste of the lives of countless women and children.

Even British troops who were near the "ground zero" of Hiroshima said it was a terrible thing to do.

The allies did it because the wanted to observe the widespread and long-term effects of their murderous weapon.

If they really were interested in preventing further loss of life, and justice, they would have bombed the railway lines leading to Auschwitz and the other camps, and the clearly marked gas chambers - details of which were supplied to them. They didn't, because it suited them to have troops tied up murdering Jews, gypsies, homosexuals and other undesirables, rather than risk them being sent to the front as combat troops. And they would not have protected the high level doctors and scientists (from both Germany and Japan) who had experimented on people because they wanted the details of the horrors they had inflicted - purely in the interest of science, I'm sure. [agnry]

SchadenfreudePersonified · 28/09/2020 11:19

Sorry Balloonride - I clicked on the wrong quote.

Apologies.

TheVanguardSix · 28/09/2020 11:20

Also, it's the word 'alone' spelled backward.
It's a bad luck name.

Topseyt · 28/09/2020 11:44

@JaffaCake70

I love it. It reminds me of the song Enola Gay by OMD, listen to the song and you'll love the name even more. You do know the story of the Enola Gay don't you? If not, google it before you name your DD and then decide. I think the name is lovely.
You do know that the OMD song tells the story of the American aircraft named Enola Gay (after the Captain's mother), charts it's approach to Hiroshima and it's part in dropping the first ever atomic bomb don't you?

I think it strange that you think that makes the name even more attractive to be honest. Have you never given any thought to the lyrics of the song at all? Just listened to the music without really thinking about it?

Yes, musically it is an absolute belter and was a very big hit in the eighties. The words have very real meaning and resonance though and should not be ignored or dismissed. That is ignoring the history from which they are derived and potentially failing to remember the many thousands who died, and whose descendants still suffer today from the effects of that event.

canigohomenow · 28/09/2020 11:49

She should have stayed at home yesterday.

CatRamsey · 28/09/2020 11:54

I'm 24, I know the song by OMD (great tune!) but have never heard of the plane or Hiroshima... Some of these comments are making me think I should've heard of these!

I actually like how Enola sounds but I suppose it's whether you'd be happy with your child having these connections linked to their name.

How about Enora? It's a Breton name.

AlexaShutUp · 28/09/2020 11:57

You have never heard of Hiroshima, CatRamsey? Please tell me that I have misunderstood your post.

CatRamsey · 28/09/2020 11:58

@AlexaShutUp no I've never heard of it, you understood correctly.

PamDemic · 28/09/2020 12:04

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AlexaShutUp · 28/09/2020 12:06

Wow. I'm a bit shocked by that, but I realise that schools may not cover it these days. Personally, I think it's one of events in history that everyone should learn about it.

ScarMatty · 28/09/2020 12:08

I have no idea what enola gay is!

NiceGerbil · 28/09/2020 12:10

Google it scar!

hapagirl · 28/09/2020 12:12

My dad knew an Enola. Apparently her dad named her after the Enola Gay and thought that nuking people was good.

Whatthebloodyell · 28/09/2020 12:14

My first thoughts are ‘enola/alone’ by the maniac. And now I have that song in my head!

sashh · 28/09/2020 12:45

The hibakusha (survivors of the bombs) and their decedents still face discrimination today.

@JaffaCake70 do you know a different story?

mamaonamission · 28/09/2020 12:47

Read it as Ebola

stairway · 28/09/2020 12:49

What about Elona instead?

yikesanotherbooboo · 28/09/2020 12:51

Ilona ?

stairway · 28/09/2020 12:52

No Elona, I think it Hungarian but from the Hebrew Oak tree like Elon (musk)

bluemoon2468 · 28/09/2020 13:00

Just makes me think of Ebola 🤢

EvilPea · 28/09/2020 13:29

Ebola for me too

Im 40 and didn't know it was the name of the plane either. I don't remember doing the American / Japanese side of the war at school at all. We only vaguely touched on WW2, did a fair bit on ww1. But it was mostly Tudor and stewart stuff. Which is a shame as i loved the ww2 stuff.

giletrouge · 28/09/2020 13:32

@CatRamsey can I ask how old you are and where you were educated? I'm not being rude I promise, I'd like to make sense of how an adult can not know about Hiroshima. Thank you..

CatRamsey · 28/09/2020 13:37

@giletrouge I said in my post I'm 24. Educated in Wales. Only did history up to year 9 but can't remember much of it if I'm honest. Definitely never heard of it though.

ScarMatty · 28/09/2020 13:46

[quote giletrouge]**@CatRamsey can I ask how old you are and where you were educated? I'm not being rude I promise, I'd like to make sense of how an adult can not know about Hiroshima. Thank you..[/quote]
Also a grown adult here who doesn't know.
Educated in England in a top private school

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