How would you pronounce Frances?

[JessicaBearx]

I would pronounce it FrARNces. Is this how most pronounce it or do you pronounces in Fran ces?
Asking because i don't want to pick a name we are pronouncing "wrong". Thanks

But how is Frahncis ok then?

Because that's how it's pronounced.

:o

Did you deliberately just change the ending? The thread is about Frances ending in es, not Francis ending in is. They don't sound the same.

French people would never say 'France' with a short a, would they?

Northern people would though. The kind that say Bath with a short A.

They do insofar as the start of the name. The ces/cis at the end is very subtle and I bet most pronounce that the same either way.

Bathsheba.

You'd pronounce it Bahthsheba but shorten it to bath? Or Bahth?!

It still doesn't make sense. If the a is long in Frances because that is your accent and you sat Barth and Parth and Carstle, then why do you shorten it in Frank and Fran? Either its your accent or it isn't, it can't sometimes be but not others.

I get you Will

Because English pronounciation is wierd like that. Frank and Fran are always said with a short a. Francis/es can vary.

France-is

There are no rules in English,just exceptions

Bert is right- Frank and Fran are never pronounced with a long A, nothing to do with accent.

I am a Frances. It's pronounced Frarn-siss down south. Northerners might say Fran (rhyme with can)-siss.
There is no appreciable difference between Frances and Francis in terms of pronunciation. These are the female and male spellings of the same name.
Fran - the most common shortening- is pronounced to rhyme with can/man etc in both north and south.
HTH
I love my name by the way and I hope your DD does too if you use it.

That clears that up then

France - iss. Although I'm Scottish so the arn sound is the middle just doesn't happen for me...

As op says.

Only opened the thread to find out how on earth you could pronounce it, other than Fran (as in the first 4 letters of Frank)- sis (as in first part of sister)

Just to throw a spanner in the works, I know a Frances to who is Frahn. Southern but not posh. ''Tis unusual like that though.

I still think its weird but ok. Another question for those with the Frarn-ces way...what if you meet someone who says Hi my name is Fran-ces (pronouncing the other way to you)? Would you say it the way they say it or the way you say it? And if the latter, what would you say if they told you that isn't how their name sounds?

No I wouldn't change my accent.

Frarn. Ha, made me giggle.

I'm Australian and would say Fran-sis with Fran rhyming with man. I've heard many people called Frarn-ses though, I just assumed it was a preference or an accent thing.

It's not changing your accent, because you already change the long a of your accent to a short a when the name requires it, as you said you wouldn't call someone Frarnk for Frank!

Frarnk 😂 That sounds like some uber-posh hipstery version of Frank

Or the wedding planner in The Father of the Bride

It's not changing your accent, because you already change the long a of your accent to a short a when the name requires it, as you said you wouldn't call someone Frarnk for Frank!

My dh would say Frances with a short A, I wouldn't suddenly start using a short A just because he does, in fact he'd laugh at me as it would sound odd if I did it.

Fran-ses emphasis on the Fran. Scottish.