How would you pronounce Frances?

[JessicaBearx]

I would pronounce it FrARNces. Is this how most pronounce it or do you pronounces in Fran ces?
Asking because i don't want to pick a name we are pronouncing "wrong". Thanks

banging my head at the complete an utter constant missing of the point on this thread.

None of the names you mentioned are in the same vein as Frances and Fran though.

Matthew - Matt
Julie - Jules
Angela - Angel
Arthur - Art

@DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen or Sunny Donny . I haven't lived there since I was little, but I always do a double take when my southern DH calls it Doncahhhster

France-iss

Frarn-ciss is more like how I pronounce it.

Tis my DD's name. If I shortened it, it would become 'Fran'.

Fran-sis.

Where are people getting the extra R sound from eg, Fr-ARN-ces?

mines pronounced fran-sez

RhubardGin as has been said before, in non-rhotic accents people are using 'ar' to indicate a long 'a' as they don't pronounce the r it just modifies the sound of the 'a'. Since there are many rhotic speakers on this thread, it would be better for the non-rhotic speakers to use 'ah' to indicate the long 'a' as to non-rhotic speakers 'ar' and 'ah' sound the same, but not to rhotic speakers.

Phew!

Incidentally, to those that are saying why don't the people who say "Frahnces" say "Frahn" when it's shortened, instead of 'Fran' because the letter order is the same, how about "Angela" and "angel"? Do you say the first 2 syllables of those words the same? I say 'Sahndra', but I don't say 'Sahmuel" or 'mahths'. No one does.
I also wish some people wouldn't say that people who use the long 'a' are doing it to sound 'posh'. I seem to detect anger from Northerners towards Southerners regarding pronunciation, which I have never noticed going the other way. Odd.

This reminds me of Peppa Pig and baby AlexAARNDER. The babies own Mother called him Alex AND er and the posh Pig family said it all "AAARNDER"

B-i-t-c-h. Based on asomeone I know called Frances. Shudder.

IloveBanff

Aaah ok, thanks!

Yes, Banff, you're absolutely right about using 'ah' instead of 'ar'. There are obviously more rhotic speakers on this thread than I gave credit for!

My dad had a friend called Frances, pronounced Fran-say

France Siss

Bore and boring don't have an ah or ar sound anyway? Odd example.

Whoooooooooooooosh!

Where does the ah sound come from?

Ask your father.

Fran-sis

Fran-ces. Emphasis on the first syllable.

Raised in north west England

Fran-ces.

Same as with Frank - short hard A

My family call me Frarnces or frarnny (which I hate but it's stuck)
my dad was also Francis, he called me Fran-ces (he was originally from Scotland)
From my late teens I started introducing myself to new friends/colleagues as Fran
This didn't stop my mother calling me Frarn though!

If you're picking the name then however you pick isn't wrong. Just be prepared for a lifetime of correcting people!
Have this with mine and my daughter's names. Although I have once been told I'm pronouncing my name wrong! & once im pronouncing my daughters wrong (different people). Some people also try to subtly correct you by repeating it their way again 😃🤐.

I would say Fran-cez by the way.

Northerners don't get anger towards their accents but they do get corrected, patronised, discriminated against in the workplace. So it probably evens out

Where are people getting the extra R sound from eg, Fr-ARN-ces?

Their accent.

Ask your father

This has to be a leveller, surely.

Even people with northern UK accents pronounce this with a long A, right?

Not in Yorkshire.