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To think this was an assault *triggerwarning* graphic content

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Scardeycat1 · 16/04/2023 08:24

warning: intimate / explicit content

I’ve been seeing someone casually recently. He lives a long way away so haven’t seen him much, but he’s a friend and we stay in touch. He’s a couple of years younger. Basically just a fun thing, was never going to develop into anything more serious which was fine.

We have slept together a few times, during which it’s become increasingly rough. Slapping, choking, hair pulling etc. Not my total favourite, but kind of fun and I’m up for trying stuff.

Then the other week, after a night out where we were both pretty drunk, things progressed as usual but then took a turn for the more extreme. He very forcefully had me perform oral sex on him in such a way i was gagging and couldn’t breathe, and then when we was ‘finished’ strangled me until I passed out. We had not discussed trying anything of the sort. And he’d finished! So he was just… watching. I came round, I don’t know, minutes (?) later having some sort of fit, slapped him hard, he then slapped me back and stormed out, shouting abuse at me as he went.

As if the story couldn’t get worse! The next day he texted to see if I was ok etc, and I had a total memory blackout. I had thought I’d just left the night out and gone to bed. So I was friendly as usual in my messages, reassured I was fine etc. It was only over a series of flashbacks the coming days, as the swelling got worse and I had to go to hospital, that I pieced together what happened. I messaged him and told him to never contact me again and I was blocking him.

The whole experience has left me deeply confused. I know a lot of guys these days like it rough, but this was surely outside of the boundaries of normal? This guy honestly comes across as just the nicest sweetest most mild mannered guy. Others in my social circle know him and he has a rep for just being mr nice guy. Is he just a total creep to want to watch someone being strangled when he’s already finished? Am I being over the top to feel like I could have died?

OP posts:
KTheGrey · 16/04/2023 12:17

The most important thing is that you are ok and he never comes near you again. I hope he has accepted the block and isn't trying to get past it.

I hope you are able to use therapy to process this and fully recover.

YoBeaches · 16/04/2023 16:49

maddening · 16/04/2023 10:29

Is there a.way you can put this on file without prosecuting?

The OP doesn't choose whether it's prosecuted. All she could do is report it and make a statement which would be investigated. CPS decides whether there is a case to prosecute, which often evidence of proof is hard to come by.
^
But that's why reporting it becomes so important, as this history builds a picture over time. He could have already been reported several times before. He may have never been reported because he's so sweet and knows how to manipulate his victims.

Appreciate posters saying to stop telling. oP to report, but the point was that she asked whether it was assault. We all agree it was, a crime was committed against her.

Op as you've already sought RL support and a therapist I'm. It sure what else you wanted to get from an online forum. Naturally people would encourage you to report, given the seriousness of what occurred. Your children were nearly left without you. And you're right it is difficult to perceive what problems could be caused by reporting him. Only you know what that reality is and whether you can handle it.^

daretodenim · 17/04/2023 12:26

You can lose consciousness quickly that's true, it can be in a few seconds. But it takes nearly 5 to be killed.

I was strangled in sex years before it became popular in porn and I'd never even heard about it - other than what I thought was people joking. I didn't lose consciousness but I did think I was going to die.

Most important for anybody reading this - not OP as she's made her decision about her experience:

"“Most abusers do not strangle to kill. They strangle to show they can kill,” says Gael Strack and Casey Gwinn in the American Bar Association’s Criminal Justice. However, it is important to realize, “When a victim is strangled, she is on the edge of homicide.”

https://www.domesticshelters.org/articles/health/strangulation-can-leave-long-lasting-injuries

FOJN · 17/04/2023 12:47

Is he just a total creep to want to watch someone being strangled when he’s already finished? Am I being over the top to feel like I could have died?

These are the saddest lines of your whole post. I'm not going to be gentle in explaining this because you seem uncertain about whether having boundaries makes you up tight and I want to be very clear about how appalling the situation you described was.

Your FWB is a porn sick misogynist and very dangerous. Yes, you could have died in service of the mighty penis. You did not consent, although no one can consent to their own murder, regardless of how much these porn sick bastards delude themselves.

Why are you OK with violent sex? You do realise that porn actresses are paid to endure that abuse didn't you? Are you also aware that they are coerced to do things they do not want because production companies withhold pay for the whole crew on set if the scene is not completed; everyone's income depends on a porn actresses ability to endure physical abuse. You have been conditioned to think porn represents the kind of sex everyone enjoys, it's does not, the level of violence in most mainstream porn is very niche IRL.

What kind of man gets off on sexual violence? A misogynist and sexual sadist, not someone safe to be around.

Please contact a support service for survivors of sexual violence to get help.

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