To think Auriol Grey being jailed is not appropriate.

Her actions caused someone else's death. That is the verdict of the jury - who heard all the evidence in this case rather than the truncated interpretations given in the press - not mine.

There also seem to be varying interpretations as to the nature and degree of the disabilities she has. A report on these will doubtless have been submitted to a court, and in the sentencing mitigating factors will have been considered alongside aggravating ones. For some reason, this particular judge has decided that the mitigating factor of any disabilities doesn't mitigate the fact that she was apparently remorseless.

The question of whether a custodial sentence in prison is a useful or appropriate catch-all punishment is a separate question. It's an important question, and one that is long overdue.

It might well be the case that this isn't the best move in Grey's particular situation. This still doesn't mitigate the fact that she's been found guilty, by due legal process and a fair trial, of manslaughter.

In my opinion, 3 years was too kind for manslaughter. It was a split pavement. She knew what she done enough to leg it before the emergency services arrived on scene. Having a disability does not disseminate you from criminal culpability.

None of that means she can't be a nasty, vile person. Having a disability doesn't make you a good person by default. Try watching the video, see her snapping at a pensioner to "get off the fucking pavement", then watch her shove her onto the road to her death, then come back here and say that's a good person who deserves pity.

Link - again for the people who missed it.

It's actually irrelevant whether any of us think we can see a 'push', a 'shove' or whatever. The court had access to the cctv footage in its entirety, as well as a wealth of other evidence and the conclusion is that she is guilty of manslaughter.

Her sentence reflects the fact she walked away while the victim was dying/ dead, she lied in police interviews which shows that she had the capacity to realise she'd done wrong and was manipulating things to give a different account from the reality. She did at some point admit that she made physical contact with the cyclist, so we know that for certain. Incidentally going back to the posts trying to claim AG's behaviour was affected by the covid pandemic, who the fuck chooses to touch a stranger if they're anxious about a transmissible illness? This was the period when people who were ultra anxious would cross the road, keep their distance- not deliberately walk quickly towards someone without any attempt to move to the side where there's clearly loads of room.

Any defence of AG's actions is ridiculous. She caused the cyclist's death and has caused untold grief to the cyclist and the driver's families.

The video footage clearly shows a push.

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@lollipoprainbow
Except as has been said countless times, whether or not we think we can see a push or not when we watch a short, partial video clip on our phones or laptops is completely irrelevant.

@TheBigWangTheory Were you in court?

No suggestion of a push??

It's clear from the footage that Grey did something to Celia that forced her into the road. She stops still at the point they'd meet, she turns, she shifts her weight and she moves her arm. Celia falls into the road and off her bike, so clearly not in control at that point.

It possibly wasn't hard enough to be described as a shove, but you don't need to apply much pressure to a cyclist to knock them over. They're balancing delicately all the time.

If there's literally no suggestion of any kind of push, the case wouldn't have made it to court, much less resulted in a conviction. Don't be so absolutely ridiculous.

Some people are so obsessed with trying to wipe away any wrong doing from this women that it’s actually terrifying.
This woman was known to be aggressive in other instances, verbally abused the elderly woman and very possibly pushed her off balance and into oncoming traffic. She seen the woman get horrifically hit by a car, walked off to do her shopping, lied to the police about the incident (which quite clearly suggests she had enough cognitive ability to understand that she did wrong) and has shown absolutely zero remorse ever since. She caused the death of another person but doesn’t think she did anything wrong.
She’s a danger to society.
Very much like those people who push unsuspecting innocent people in front of tubes.

I cannot wrap by head around the people who think she did nothing wrong or who seem to think you somehow can’t be an abusive asshole if you have a physical disability.

And for millionth time, Aoriol even admitted that she touched Celia, bearing in mind she was probably lying as she had done since the incident and it was a heavier touch than she described.

The Dailymotion video is so clear.

She caused the death of another person and caused another trauma. She left the scene. Not to mention various family etc effected.
She deserves more than 3 years.

@TheBigWangTheory 🙄

...not that partially sighted is she! She saw the cyclist clearly and she was very clearly able to express emotions at her victim.

The Judge didn't buy the disability excuse and her lawyer couldn't get away with that as a defense either.

She is a very big unit and she shouted foul language and abuse at and then pushed a 77 year old tiny woman into the path of a moving car. She then walked away, leaving her victim dying, to go shopping.

She showed no remorse and lied to the police. She's all those things, hence being called them here, on social media, everywhere.

'A big unit' I've heard it all now.

From the BBC report:

"Det Sgt Dollard, who interviewed Grey, told BBC Radio Cambridgeshire: "I'll always remember the morning after it occurred obtaining the CCTV and watching it in its entirety.

"In all honesty it's horrific and not appropriate for wider release to the public, but, if it were, then I think a lot of the arguments in relation to appropriate responses would be null and void."

He added that there were "considerations in relation to Auriol Grey's vulnerability" in their investigation.

"A lot of medical records... professional expert evidence was sought and presented to a jury, it's important to note, and with all that, in fact, she was found guilty of an unlawful act and that is why she was convicted," he said."

@lollipoprainbow Are you a friend of hers? You seem hell bent on standing up for her

But it wasn't an accident. Its been decided by a court. You can call it what you want but you don't get to decide what is or isn't an accident.

Mrs Twit did push her. I have completely and utterly changed my mind on this case since seeing that video. Nasty, nasty arsehole. Three years isn’t long enough.

'I cannot wrap by head around the people who think she did nothing wrong or who seem to think you somehow can’t be an abusive asshole if you have a physical disability.'

I don't know anyone who said she hasn’t done anything wrong, rather the sentence is excessive for what was a tragic accident.

She lives in supportive housing, she has disabilities this doesn't mean she can behave as she pleases rather it may explain her reaction.

I've no idea how the judge can boldly claim her disabilities were irrelevant, I would suggest anyone with a sight impairment would have reacted to someone hurtling towards them on a bike on a pavement. As others have said this was Oct 2020 where many, particularly the vulnerable, were very anxious about folk invading their space.

A suspended sentence was surely more appropriate and I hope any appeal is successful.

Grow up

Watch the Dailymotion video, it was not a tragic accident.

@Janiie Grey invaded the cyclist's space by walking towards her and pushing her into the road. There is plenty of footage which shows the width of the pavement - if she had just kept on her original course, there would have been plenty of room for them both.

I wonder how different the responses here would be if it was a child she'd pushed into the road? Seems that people don't value all lives.

And Celia was not hurtling towards Aoriol.

Cyclists shouldn't be on the pavement end of.