To think Auriol Grey being jailed is not appropriate.

@lollipoprainbow 'fraid the conviction and sentence shows it's not the 'end of' that Mrs Ward was cycling where she was

None of those things just entitled to my opinion.

Yes. That was a definite push.

Well, they do say opinions are like arseholes.

If she was concerned about people ‘invading her space’ she could have moved over to the ample amount of space to her right. Instead she shouted close to the cyclist and reached out to physically touch her. Hardly seems like the actions of someone vulnerable and afraid of someone being in her space. Quite the opposite infant.

What about verbally abusing someone and then causing them to fall into traffic is a ‘tragic accident’?

Enjoy giving victim blaming opinions then?

Significant cognitive issues is not a "physical disability".

There are some very abelist posts here.

I don't know anyone who said she hasn’t done anything wrong, rather the sentence is excessive for what was a tragic accident.

If you think it was an accident, you must think Grey didn't do anything wrong. And she absolutely did. And it killed someone.

An accident would have been Grey unintentionally failing to move over far enough to make way for the bike, causing them to collide. Or Grey accidentally dropping her bag and Celia hitting it or getting distracted by it.

Walking purposefully towards Celia while shouting and swatting at her, until she's on top of her and the contact she makes sends her into the road is not an accident. It isn't an accident just because the full consequences weren't intended.

The dailymotion video was the one I saw and it's pretty obvious Grey moves towards Celia Ward and makes the motions of leaning to touch her (Grey admitted to light contact). Immediately, Celia wobbles and falls into the road.

It's a real shame the CCTV angle wasn't a bit better as it would have caught the contact and there'd be no dispute about haw light or otherwise it was.

@HarlanPepper very mature !

Says the victim blamer?!

@BishopRock it's not a 'shame' that we can't see more in the video. I watched it once and that was once too many, seeing and heating the vile aggression spewing from AG.

Point is, the police saw the whole video. Copious evidence was presented to the court- and a lot of that would have been from AG's barrister to try to defend her.

At the end of the day it's indefensible. Which is why she's convicted

She committed manslaughter, she didn't intentionally kill the woman but she did push the woman off the pavement into the road and in doing so the woman fell under the wheels of a car, which killed her. The sentence is appropriate. Being blind and having cognitive issues doesn't give someone a license to kill.

Indeed: and like arseholes, they are often best kept to oneself rather than being offensively on display.

I'm guessing it's because a lot of us have had the experience of having to dodge a cyclist or a near miss that there is an instinct is to side with the pedestrian.

Looking at that video is a different matter.

People should be glad the video exists at all, with her lies and attempt at evasion she could have easily escaped any punishment

I meant we as in society, as in it's a shame for the case that the camera didn't pick up the contact. If it had she may have got longer.

Yeah let's just lock her up and throw away the key.

It did, the jury were shown the video of the whole incident.

I find it so unspeakably offensive the amount of victim blaming on this thread. Much of it by people who just don't like cyclist so presume the cyclist must be to blame.

I think the sentence was justified if rather too lenient; but overall I trust the court got it right, who would have looked at all the evidence including mitigating factors. Rather than some of the tabloid reading, cyclist hating amateur sleuths on here.

It's the same video just the court one will include her getting run over.

We see the important part

I don't envy them. I don't think I'd sleep for weeks if I had to watch the aftermath.

No it didn't, the cctv will have gone on to show the aftermath of the contact, which no one wants to see unless they have to.

The camera can't change position to show the contact itself in full.

And they would have seen how Aoriol reacted after Celia was hit by the car.