To think that it is always unacceptable to call a woman a 'slag'?

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I think it is hideous and reinforces the misogyny in our society.

Why do people do it?

It isn't a judgement on my part - it is a judgement that many mothers have made - hence the large number of threads on the matter - often the first response to a thread is "not this again".

I'm sorry to bore you so, qk.

But I think you're wrong - although how we got on to this when the OP was about the word 'slag' I'm not sure.

Personally I can't see any difference between my children using the terms willy and fanny (although given that they are now 18 and 15 I'd probably expect them to use more grown up words!)

I just found out (yesterday ) that I'm having a girl.

I'll probably teach her to say 'fanny' as a fairly innocuous term which will be understood by others.

Sorry to join in the perceived attack qk, but you are basing all of your arguments on subjective opinions.

Slag is not a factual term.

All opinions are, by definition, subjective.

Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has them and they are usually full of shit .

Minnie is the term for vagina in our house. Makes it a bit difficult when Minnie Mouse comes on the telly, admittedly.

qk- I'm sort of with you, I think it is ok to use the word slag if the cap fits!!!
I don't think it's right to use it about woman who sleep around IF- the woman and her 'conquests' are both single, as no harm is done, and there's no innocent partner being taking for a fool.
However, I use that word and (others to the same effect), to describe bitches who I think ARE slags, for example: woman who try it on, flirt with and shag men, who they KNOW are in a relationship with someone else, the local 'Jeremy kyle' brigade who have about 20 kids to different men that my taxes pay for, sluts that parade themselfs in front of other woman's men, strippers who rub their bits in men's faces, knowing that its their stag night and there is a poor bride to be waiting at home (but that's another thread!!!) and the dirty little cow who stole my ex off me!
I don't give a fuck if I get flamed for my views, which no doubt I will by the sheep on here, I stand by everything I say!!!

qk- your argument reminds me of a girl I knew who thought it was ok to use the word "nigger".

Neither of these words are acceptable language amongst educated, civilised people.

Is not sheep-like to not feel sufficiently threatened by other people's sexuality to degrade myself by calling them names

foreverastudent - that word was acceptable once upon a time - when my grandad died (at least 20+yrs ago), he had loads of stuff, he never threw anything away. One tin of very old brown shoe polish was described in print by the manufacturer as "ni**er brown". So it was used in a literal descriptive sense about the colour of the shoe polish, not in a derogatory sense. Times have changed and now, clearly, it is a terrible word and I would go beserk if my children ever used it. I just can't see "slag" in the same way.

I've called women bitches and slags before.

I quite often call women who are awful and horrible to me bitchy or cows. I call men who are horrible to me cunts and bastards.

(as to the slag thing, I called the OW a slag and she was only ever known by me as "The Whore")

I know it's not right...I don't hate myself or other women at all, dunno, it's just a shorthand for the way I felt about the OW I guess.

QK - how many woman does a man have to sleep with in order to be slag?

Yes, it's always unacceptable. Hideous misogynistic word.

I don't know, hundreds maybe in total. Perhaps fewer if you did 20 blokes in the same week for example.

Each case on its own merit I suppose

ShirleyKnot - I would say that is quite normal behaviour (as long as you are not saying it to their faces!). Bit of venting fine IMO.

See - the fact you are making a judgement on someones behaviour is what makes it unreasonable.

Who are you to say what is an acceptable number of people for anyone to sleep with? Just because something is right for you, doesn't mean we all have to live by your rules.

The word slag is vile as it has negative connotations about someone elses sex life - something that it none of your opinion.

And if you can see that a word that isn't directed at you (n***) is offensive, why can't you see that another word is too?

Oh and 'IveStillGotIt? Sorry love, but based on that (and your other posts), no you ain't...

dunno why they do it to be honest

it's a really strange thing to comment about imo but then I have ridiculously strong views about very trivial things

none of my friends say it but we are older and were all possibly slags in our youth

bizarrley the only person i know who is referred to as a slag or a slut is male

Slag means "vitreous mass left as a residue by the smelting of metallic ore." I do wish people would use language correctly (pompous emoticon)

In relation to women, the eighteenth century origins define slag as meaning "worthless person". Associating the word with sexuality is a late twentieth century development, coinciding pretty much with women's sexual liberation. If you want to collude in using a word that condems women as worthless because they choose to have sex outside of marriage, then at least understand the implications.

"See - the fact you are making a judgement on someones behaviour is what makes it unreasonable"

ifancyashandy - I've got to pull you on this, I'm sorry but I have. There have GOT to be judgements made on people's behaviours in some cases. There has to be a point at which society says "actually this is not only self-destructive, but also socio-destructive" we do not live in bubbles in which every man can do what they they bloody well like as long as there are no judgements made.

Sleeping with hundreds upon hundreds of men does not call for our vilification, agreed. But really? does it not indicate that there is something amiss - surely?

I hate the word slut more than slg tbh.

But Shirley, how so? What's amiss?

I honestly don't think me / you / my neighbour having multiple partners affects anyone. I really couldn't give a monkeys and truly fail to see how it could be socio-destructive. If I choose to sleep with 10 men tonight and another 10 tomorrow, it's no-one's business but mine and theirs.

And even if it were, then the use of the word slag is still vile - and I refer you to Clemette's excellent post as to the reason why.

I quite like the word slut, especially as it has been used for over 500 years to mean both someone who was untidy and someone who's morals were loose. I suspect I would have been a slut in the sixteenth century.

I would never use it to criticise someone else's choices though. I simply don't understand the obsession with how many people other people have had/are having sex with. Using abusive words like this implies that you somehow think you are a better person because you confine yourself to one penis (or whatever takes your fancy).

so...should we have a debate on millie tant?

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should slag be outlawed then, as a term? so i should call women who sleep with anything with a pulse after 10 pints a whore then and thats acceptable is it? ok. now officially known as whores.

what a load of bollocks. why debate a word when the behaviour itself that defines the word should be debated?

off to bed im must be overtired.

But a whore is specifically a prostitute.

I think the general feeling is that many don't think the behaviour should be debated, because it is a personal choice. For myself as a firmly secular person, there is no morality within sexuality if it doesn't break a serious commitment and is fully consensual.

Those of you who have absolutely no judgement on someone who sleeps with 20 people in a week - are you happy for your sons and daughters to behave like this?