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To think that it is always unacceptable to call a woman a 'slag'?

163 replies

electra · 07/07/2010 19:19

I think it is hideous and reinforces the misogyny in our society.

Why do people do it?

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dittany · 07/07/2010 21:16

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qk · 07/07/2010 21:17

but victoria, you are not allowed to use that word - your rules!

victoriascrumptious · 07/07/2010 21:17

I most certainly am Dittany!
I am amazing in bed.

secunda · 07/07/2010 21:19

oh well if WIKIPEDIA says it then it must be true

n*er is a 'real word' too, but we don't use that

ReasonableDoubt · 07/07/2010 21:19

Oh if it's on wiki it must be right.

'Slag' is a slang word. Slang words are not 'factually correct' by definition. They are...urm...slang. And most slang words used to describe female sexuality, sexual organs etc are deeply offensive.

Look, if you're happy to be called a 'slag', that's your call. But it does say a lot about you, I'm afraid.

qk · 07/07/2010 21:19

Pootles2010 - you are of course correct, I did realise that there was no male equiv of the word. That in itself is not enough to prevent me from thinking it is OK to use.

eg the word "willy". There is no female equivalent "nice" word - it is often asked on MN - what to call the female equivalent. Is willy therefore a bad word? Does society hate women and therefore not have an equivalent word?

5DollarShake · 07/07/2010 21:19

Wiki doesn't describe it as a factual word, but as a pejorative word. You know what that means, right?

victoriascrumptious · 07/07/2010 21:21

Look we've already established that qk is a bit of a goer so we should all move on. I'd hesitate to use the word slag. Slapper yes,

qk · 07/07/2010 21:21

What does it say about me RD?

TBH what it probably says is that I am autistic. It is a fact, I'm happy with it. I am autistic in case you think I am being flippant about autism.

ReasonableDoubt · 07/07/2010 21:22

Hmmm. Well, my son is autistic and I will be teaching him that 'slag' is an offensive and unacceptable word.

TitsalinaBumSquash · 07/07/2010 21:22

As far as i was aware, or i should say that when i was a teen, the word Slag was generally used to describe a female that would dress in very short skirts showing thier knickerless cracks off to the world, combine this with a nipple skimming top, a trowel load of make-up and then throw in a good dose of trying to get off with every male they see and they were called a Slag.

I think alot of people who use the word dont generally think about misogyny in any context.

I dont here it a lot these days and when i do its often when groups of teens are getting rowdy outside.

5DollarShake · 07/07/2010 21:23

It says... that you're happy to use words which have a derogatory, disparaging, judgemental and belittling affect on the person you bestow them on.

Nice.

victoriascrumptious · 07/07/2010 21:26

Nah it says she's pretty literal in everything she thinks about and is inclined to put people into catogories. Shame, I was hoping for a big fight.

I'm still great in bed though (Dittany)

qk · 07/07/2010 21:28

My son is also autistic - of course I will teach him that it is derogatory. That means that you don't go up to someone and say "you are a slag". However, if he (accurately) described someone to me in private as a slag, I'd have no issue with him using the word. If this is wrong, perhaps you could explain to me why.

qk · 07/07/2010 21:29

5DollarShake - I do not call people slags - so I am not belittling them etc! I would be happy in a conversation with my mum to describe someone as a slag (if the person in question was).

EleanorHandbasket · 07/07/2010 21:31

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ReasonableDoubt · 07/07/2010 21:31

qk, it's hard to explain in any more detail than has already been explained on this thread.

It is, because of it's use from inception, a nasty word used almost exclusively to condemn, belittle and label women for daring to have sex because they want to, because they enjoy it, outside of a 'loving' relationship.

I would be mortified if the word ever crossed my son's lips and despite being totally against any sort of physical punishment, I might have to slap him if he ever used it to my knowledge...

TechLovingDad · 07/07/2010 21:32

You are, of course NBU.

It's perfectly acceptable to call a male friend a slaaaaaaag, though

qk · 07/07/2010 21:32

Eleanor - I do not hate women. You have misinterpreted what I have written.

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MitchyInge · 07/07/2010 21:34

when I am God or in charge of the whole world somehow I will strongly discourage use of words like promiscuity

it is just an utterly pointless concept that has no use at all

PortiaNovmerriment · 07/07/2010 21:36

My point was that once you accept it as a term at all, it starts to get bandied about to describe all manner of women who don't happen to fit some people's definition of sexually proper. So somebody in an outfit that is revealing, or a woman talking to somebody else's husband. Or any woman you don't like or are jealous of. I daresay so-called honour killings are justified by the word too.

It is just horrible.

BecauseImWorthIt · 07/07/2010 21:37

I would argue that 'fanny' is the colloquial alternative to 'willy'

Slag is definitely a misogynistic term and is to be avoided at all costs.

I hate the fact that 'notches on the bedpost' are a matter of pride for men but supposed to be a badge of shame for women.

qk · 07/07/2010 21:41

These notches are a matter of pride for men themselves. I'd think it was gross for a man to have hundreds of notches on his bedpost.

BecauseImWorthIt - I would find the word "fanny" coming out of the mouth of my 2yo or my 4yo to be a little bit rude. It isn't the equivalent to willy.

BecauseImWorthIt · 07/07/2010 21:44

But qk - that is a judgement on your part. So who is to say it is or isn't the equivalent?

Why should fanny be any ruder than willy?

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