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To be furious that DD was alone when I came home??

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ApocalypseCheese · 23/06/2010 17:31

DD has asd and a statement which covers her from the moment she leaves home to the moment she gets home. IE she is never unsupervised for her own safety.

Got home from shopping earlier and the poor thing was sat on the sofa panicing, one phonecall to the school reveals there were hardly any kids on the transport bus so dd was home quite a lot earlier than usual.
The front door wasnt locked as i've lost my front door key, dp had left for work earlier and left it open for me/the builders.

Not good enough, these people are trusted to care for my child when i'm not there, heads will roll in the morning

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EldritchCleavage · 25/06/2010 15:30

Have been lurking since this thread started. Am now open-mouthed in bewilderment (not a good look).

I think the OP is clear. The issue is simple-the child must never be left unsupervised but the escort failed to ensure (as required) that there was someone at home to take over supervision.

All else is nit-picking and illogical. Even if AC had been horribly at fault like being 50 minutes late because she was shagging all the builders in the pub car park, her DD is not to be left unsupervised-the escort has a duty of care to the DD.

Some posters think they're Kavanagh QC with their cross-examination (almost always irrelevant). And one or two are just the epitome of churlishness.

TheBossofMe · 25/06/2010 15:36

Perhaps we are being a tad churlish because we're a bit fed up of being accused of being thick and being sworn at for not immediately understanding from the OP. Some clearly got it straight away, some didn't. I'd say about 50/50 from reading the thread and the number of posters who "got it" only on explanation of the arrangement. That doesn't excuse the rudeness which is now being displayed.

claw3 · 25/06/2010 15:38

Capital letters = being shouted at! LOL or lol, i didnt laugh that loudly

ApocalypseCheese · 25/06/2010 15:41

As I said, ins and outs of a fart...

Eldritch Oooohhhh, if only I could shag my builders

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TheBossofMe · 25/06/2010 15:46

If you want to describe your OP as being a fart, AC, that's up to you.

I however am merely saying that I didn't get it at first, did when you explained, and if that makes be super-thick and worthy of being insulted, then fine. Personally, I wouldn't be so rude about those who agreed with you and backed up your POV, and haven't been rude to you or insulted you in the slightest, but there you go...

merrymouse · 25/06/2010 15:47

"But some people wouldn´t interpret walking off a bus & into a house as being unsupervised"

That is where understanding the word 'never' is helpful.

wannaBe · 25/06/2010 15:48

"DD has asd and a statement which covers her from the moment she leaves home to the moment she gets home. IE she is never unsupervised for her own safety." just what exactly is unclear about that?

If you let a child you are supervising walk into a house without seeing the person they will then be supervised by, then you are going against the rule that "she is never left unsupervised".

Put it another way -if you took your young child to a supervised school event you wouldn't drop them off before the doors opened would you? Because then you would be leaving them unsupervised.

frankly I think that some people are deliberately missing this point because clearly they want a argument in the spirit of ibu. Either that or there really are some truely dense people on mn.

Animation · 25/06/2010 15:50

AP - you've been a star!!

Lovely weather out there by the way everyone, still chance to catch some rays.

TheBossofMe · 25/06/2010 15:54

er - wannabe, if I saw my DD go in through the school doors, I would assume she was being supervised. I don't go into school to check that there are teachers in the building - do you?

I'm not missing the point or in fact being argumentative (where is the argument except with those who are calling me dumb for not getting the opening post?), just saying that I didn't understand, and only did later when the fact that handover needed to be person to person was explained. Maybe that makes me dense, or just someone who didn't have the time to try and extrapolate what supervision meant from the post. I just don't think any of that requires the rather rude name-calling which is now going on!

Serves me right for trying to have a discussion on the importance of clarity when posting in AIBU....

StarOfValkyrie · 25/06/2010 15:55

OP YABU.

You should NOT have taken on the responsibilty of getting the meds for your sick niece when there was the potential that that could prevented you from staying at home at all times in case tranport suddenly decided to bring your dd home at a different time from usual.

You are NOT allowed to have an unlocked door and I understand a bill is being passed in the autum when the review the whole government issues. An unlocked door clearly shows you have an irresponsible and out of touch belief in human nature and you are not fit to parent unless you do something about your ignorance in this regard. When your dd is in bed tonight I suggest reading the back issues of the Daily Mail to give you some sense of perspective.

Finally, you were RUDE to post anything about SN in AIBU. You CANNOT expect people here to know or CARE about people with SN children, and by bringing it to their attention you are simply asking for trouble.

I rest my case!

TheBossofMe · 25/06/2010 16:01

I rather take umbrage at the suggestion that not having an SN child means that every poster here has no experience of people (including adults) with SN, and cares not one jot about them. I do have experience with adults with SN, and I understand the importance of taking huge care in choice of words and absolute clarity when explaining their situation, requirements and needs to people who may not immediately understand the implications.

justaboutblowingbubbles · 25/06/2010 16:02

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claw3 · 25/06/2010 16:04

Thebossofme, do you work with or live with an adult with sn's?

TheBossofMe · 25/06/2010 16:05

Probably - its rather late here and I'm a bit tired (across other side of world) so as you can probably tell, I'm losing patience. No wish to get into an argument with anyone when the reality is I have agreed with the OP from about half-way down page 1 of the thread, so think I will step away from the thread, wish AC and her daughter a very good night and hope that they never have to go through such a horrible experience again.

ApocalypseCheese · 25/06/2010 16:05

Another person who hasnt read the thread properly..... I didnt pick up meds for my sick niece, my sister is ill, the meds were her dds epilepsy medication, she kinda needs them to function.

Picking up the meds didnt make me late, I had plenty of time, the bus made me late, the bus usually runs every 10 minutes but for some reason I ended up waiting 30 minutes.

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ApocalypseCheese · 25/06/2010 16:07

And don't worry starlight you undercover bugger you, I too am being ironic

Digs out Daily Mail

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diddl · 25/06/2010 16:08

Merrymouse I understand the word never.

If I don´t see walking off a bus into a house as unsupervised, what has "never" got to do with it?

ApocalypseCheese · 25/06/2010 16:08

Oooh shit, can't read Daily Mail, that would be neglectful !

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ApocalypseCheese · 25/06/2010 16:12

Waits in for the entire 2hrs that dd is at respite for to avoid any future child abandonment issues, oh shit,don't worry i'm grateful the government gives me a 4hr break each week so i'm sat here counting my blessings and embroidering personalised face polishers for David Cameron in return.

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TheBossofMe · 25/06/2010 16:15

Sorry claw - just saw your post, so will answer before I go to bed. Worked for over 5 years in my younger days as a voluntary and then paid carer for adults with SN, 5 shifts a week including overnights. In the kind of institutionalised residential home that fortunately is less and less in vogue these days. Probably didn't understand about the handover process because most of these adults never really got to leave the facility except to go for hospital appointments and the like. Have continued to work with SN adults in a voluntary capacity for a large proportion of my adult life (not as a carer though, so again not exposed to things like handovers). Also have close family member with advanced MS.

Have never worked with SN children though, hence receiving an education from this thread.

Anyway, really am off to bed now.

merrymouse · 25/06/2010 16:22

So Diddl, your argument is that AC's dd was always supervised?

SweetGrapes · 25/06/2010 16:22

Have read the thread mostly but just answering the OP...
YANBU. My dd also has has a school to home drop off and pickup bus service.
In the first few months I was late once and phoned a friend to go around and be at my home. I also phoned the bus lady (the escort).
I fully didn't expect them to hand her over to the other person - and was in a black cab spending ££ trying to get there (was 15 mnts late finally). They waited and wouldn't hand her over - specially as dd said she doesn't know my friend (knows her very well - but that's dd )

Never been late since (still in the first year - but try and leave an hours grace as doctors/buses/traffic/meetings etc very unpredictable)

You've hardly been late for 9 years so good on you...

diddl · 25/06/2010 16:24

Is that what I said, merrymouse?

StarOfValkyrie · 25/06/2010 16:25

Yes, I have an axe now!

claw3 · 25/06/2010 16:28

Thebossofme, im glad to see that you and a few others who did not understand, have changed their minds now it has been explained.

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