to want to bag up my children and dump them in the river?

[Greensleeves]

they have had a lovely day today - a friend over all day, a water fight with water bombs and water pistols followed by fluffy dressing gowns and hot pizza, played on the Wii with their friend, then watched the world cup and had treats (choc chip muffins and pringles ) to munch during the game

for some reason they have behaved atrociously for the past hour and a half

ds1 was so rude and disrespectful we told him he needed to be quiet so we could watch the football, or take himself off to bed - several warnings

he snarled "Oh FINE I'm off to bed then" to which we replied "Night then, don't forget to brush your teeth"

when he realised we weren't going to invite him back down again he threw an enormous screaming tantrum and unrolled all the toilet rolls down the stairs

ds2 then went to bed and jumped on the top bunk (which he has been warned about endlessly) and has broken it, so he is sleeping on the floor

they are both crying and wailing and ds1 is still being rude as well

ds2 is supposed to be going on a jud course tomorrow morning, neither of us want to bloody well get up early and take him now

I am upset and furious

and dh is ashen and silent again, I know he feels rotten because he lost it and screamed at them when he saw the toilet rolls

we are shit parents, aren;t we?

And throwing a child on our compost heap would be particularly vile. I have seen huge slugs in there and it's just icky.

On the whole meaning your threats thing I think it's fine if its obviously a joke but having come from a very hippy, laissez faire household can I just strongly point out that it doesn't work with some children. I've done OK in life and am happy but my brothers needed discipline. They have grown up and have carried on being teenagers (staying up all night on internet, smoking hash, no job). That would be OK but they are not happy.

OK I've gone off on a tangent but I feel strongly that you need to discipline. This is real life and not every day can be sunshine and warm memories. Some days good, some days bad but that is OK.

what an awful thread title, I dont get why people have to write titles you take literally, and them people say ofcours eit's not to be taken literally,anyway ofcourse YABU

my keys are sticky , what U meant ofcourse, thread titles wshould be taken literally otherwise posters are pissing about

I don't, for a minute, think you do actually regard yourself as a bad parent, GS.

she does sometimes though TnOg, she often has a big crisis of confidence when something has gone wrong
you are easily tipped off balance Greeny and this is one such occasion
don't let it derail you for the whole weekend, it's fine to pick yourself up today and say "ah well we could have handled THAT better. never mind" and just get on with having a nice day

as to the "less well known posters would never get away with the title issue", well, that's what happens as we get to know and make relationships with people isn't it? they are allowed greater liberties because of our affection and respect for them
also we know their intentions are not malicious
if your mate came up and slapped your bum and said "alright fatty" you would probably laugh
if a stranger did it you would punch them, or call the police, or even worse, POST ABOUT IT ON MN

there is an implication this is unfair and we should treat any new poster the same as someone we have known for years
it's nonsensical and in real life you wouldn't dream of suggesting it

now. onto something more important. did i truly sniff your finger greeny? why the fuck would i do that?

lol no not really I was being facetious

but I shall make it my mission next time I see you to fineigle you into sniffing my finger

QS it wasn't a question of not bothering to put them to bed - we had invited their friend over and they had made England flags etc, we were trying to make an occasion of it for them and they had been looking forward to it

and surely letting children stay up on a Saturday to watch a match that starts at 7.30 isn't indicative of drunken neglect? And no, I wasn't drinking

you bastard i was racking my brains
why on earth do you get deep anal itching anyway
i never get deep anal itching
if you had regular bedtimes and enforced some BOUNDARIES around there i bet you would not get deep anal itching

Bah, I liked the thread title! It's frankly rather tame compared to the visions I have of what to do with my DS when he has once again woken me up at 4AM in the morning 5 days in a row!

And, for the record, YANBU.

TnOg I am trying to work out whether your comment was meaningful or just bitchy

do you never worry that you are a lousy parent? I do, frequently. Particularly at the moment. There are issues with both boys where I feel that I fail them repeatedly.

Greeny - you are my twin. I was seriously considering much worse yesterday so don't be bothered by thread title police

Today is another day.

I can't believe in a million years people actually thought your title was serious! No-one came and attacked me when i said last week i wanted to strangle DS cos he was being a pain in the ass!

Its called a sense of humour and some people obviously need to get one. A little rant and moan on here lets you calm down and get it off your chest i think.

You provided a lovely day for your kids, with a treat of watching the football - and they mucked it up at the end with daft annoying behavour. Its kids being kids but it would be lovely just to have a nice day from start to finish with no arguments - i totally understand why you were annoyed.

Love the idea of scooping out heads too

"Its called a sense of humour and some people obviously need to get one"

But it's not funny.

it's not funny - don't laugh then

simples

QSincognitoErgoSum

"You wanted to watch football rather than putting your kids to bed.

You could not be bothered to put your kids to sleep, so you kept them up late."

Er no - she thought they might like to stay up and watch the match. Not sure how old your sons are but i would have thought that was far from being a shit parent.

Unlike me and dh who made sure our 3 kids (all be it 5 and under) were well in bed by 7 so we could watch the match!

(And I'm assuming by put to sleep you meant putting them to bed rather than knocking them out - or am i taking things too literally )

Oh well better call social services on her then...

You can tell by the post the title was not serious, c'mon....

I laughed at the title. DD is always a little monster so I have no meaningful words of wisdom though.

Quite.
Footrball being, of course, such deeply cerebral sport that one needs absolute silence to watch it
Absolutely abhorrent title....

of course the thread title is a joke

still a vile one though, unfortunately with wording like that you'll get nowt support!!!!

who said anything about silence?

personally I find your posting name quite revolting rollmops

Is there room in that bag for DH and DS please Greeny?

Greensleeves, I love 'Bob the binbag'. I am going to stael that and use it at work on the children in the nursery.
I don't have a problem with the thread title, or the sentiment behind it. It is ok to be annoyed at your children, they really do try the patience don't they? In fact, I laughed when I read your title, because it reminded me of myself. At work, in the nursery, I often threaten to put the children in the bin.

@@I can only imagine that the people complaining about the thread title are the same that complained about that girl on "one born every minute" referring to her daughter as a "little bitch" in the middle of a contraction. Humourless and smug@@

NO!!!!! I was all for that girl on OBEM

you know why the thread title upset me? Its just reminded me of a couple of awful stories about patricide I read, thats all. I dont think I am smug and humourless Its just that the minute I read that title it reminded me of how someone had actually murdered their kids

just to clarify................

I KNOW these thread titles are not supposed to be taken literally but my mind does take them literally and brings up images of the violence portreyed.

Making jokes about treating children this way? Just nothing funny about that.

'Its just reminded me of a couple of awful stories about patricide'

Are you getting muddled with the punishment given to those in Ancient Rome guilty of patricide?

"The punishment of throwing a criminal into the river (projectio in profluentem) was inflicted for patricide or killing your father.
As soon as any one was convicted of patricide he was immediately blindfolded as unworthy of the light, and in the next place the person were taken to the field of Mars outside Rome, stripped of everything then whipped with rods. He was then sewed up in a sack, and thrown into the sea.
Later in time, to add to the punishment for patricide, a serpent was put in the sack, and still later, an ape, a dog and a cock. "

You didn't mention any cruelty to animals Greensleeves, so your title made me smile.