to want to bag up my children and dump them in the river?

[Greensleeves]

they have had a lovely day today - a friend over all day, a water fight with water bombs and water pistols followed by fluffy dressing gowns and hot pizza, played on the Wii with their friend, then watched the world cup and had treats (choc chip muffins and pringles ) to munch during the game

for some reason they have behaved atrociously for the past hour and a half

ds1 was so rude and disrespectful we told him he needed to be quiet so we could watch the football, or take himself off to bed - several warnings

he snarled "Oh FINE I'm off to bed then" to which we replied "Night then, don't forget to brush your teeth"

when he realised we weren't going to invite him back down again he threw an enormous screaming tantrum and unrolled all the toilet rolls down the stairs

ds2 then went to bed and jumped on the top bunk (which he has been warned about endlessly) and has broken it, so he is sleeping on the floor

they are both crying and wailing and ds1 is still being rude as well

ds2 is supposed to be going on a jud course tomorrow morning, neither of us want to bloody well get up early and take him now

I am upset and furious

and dh is ashen and silent again, I know he feels rotten because he lost it and screamed at them when he saw the toilet rolls

we are shit parents, aren;t we?

you probably didnt fuck anything up.

kids are strange creatures. you probably didnt notice something ds wanted you to.

That was inspiring Alaska.

I am inspired

IMO and I thinks it's beennproved food and sugar makes no difference. Think inconsistency is the issue here or they are over tired.

i'm not suggesting you overhaul your complete lifestyle daftie
just responding to what you wrote
if you don't like them getting over tired and doing some screeching then send them to bed earlier
we all feel we recognise the kind of behaviour you're describing and it's when our kids are too tired and too excited!
i don't think there's anything complicated to it - and you didn't 'fuck up'

meanwhile "emboutaillages"
and she calls me smug

AIBU to be really piossed off with my kids? would have been ok but whatever.

Ds3 is having a sleepover with his hero dh tonight. Am shoved into pull out bed #martyr

i hardly remember ANYTHING of my childhood
imagine if my parents were doing year round water fights and pizzas and stuff so i could have happy memories
and all i remember is my toy farm and a nasty kagoule i didn't like

Dads French was " ou est le n three six one two" lol e took BUTTER fo France in a vw variant

thank god for greeny and her inappropriate titles
livens the place up a bit and gives all the moaners somewhere to come and tut on a saturday night

Greenie, fwiw, I don't think you did fuck anything up. We have routine, during the week. On a weekend, both children go to bed when they want. They are usually sent upstairs out of my way, by 9:30pm, but what time they actually get into bed and go to sleep, is upto them.

Sometimes, like today, they behave. Sometimes they don't. I have had a few really bad days with dd1 this week. But she has been wonderful today. This is after sleeping at my sisters last night and staying up until 10pm and eating crap all last night and most of today. I made her eat lettuce for dinner this evening to try and make up for it

Sometimes children misbehave. It's part of their job description.

And if the bunks are wooden, they're pretty easy to fix. We have virtually rebuilt dd1's over the course of his year. Go on freecycle and try and procure a wooden bed frame and hey presto, lats a plenty. If there are none you can buy wood planks from B and Q, sand them and saw them down to size.

I'm just giggling like a small child at the suggestion I bugger off and shave my palms .

I'm not great at discipline but I am great at bedtimes. Bedtimes are carved in stone as far as I'm concerned - it's kept me sane. Forget the judo thing - consequences of actions etc. And no, you're not shit parents.

gah, I do know you are right really

it's a bit embarrassing to have written "I kep my kids up till all hours, stuffed them with grot after a water fight and a frantic Wii session, and then they were nasty to me and threw bog roll down the stairs and jumped on their beds"

you have been quite restrained really, in not crowing over it

I think I need an early night myself, and will go back to being my usual bumbling mummppety-parent self tomorrow

I do have panic attacks very easily when things go wrong with the boys

not sure about the "parenting for today" thing - I have an impressive mental archive of shit memories and every time I get cross with them, or disappoint them or something, my chest starts clenching, IYKWIM

vegasmum...i have lost a child previously...and i do not find tile of thread innoffensive, just insightful...stop sucking on lemons!

L so much wAS bad as kids I went to bloody boarding schol greeny and am still alive. Ooh have a funny thing to tell you about me having to do sething grown up

Yes, sleepovers - the invention of the devil. The younger DSs keep pleading for one but the memory of me sobbing at 3am and pleading with a bunch of 12 year old shites to go to sleep is still too vivid. DS1 has ruined it for them all.

I went to boarding school as well Al, to get away from my god-awful family

it was shit

don't want my boys to despise me

i had to look it up
i don't think i;ve ever had to look a word up on MN before

well i thought the thread title was funny, and it doesnt even register as offensive on my radar.

get some sleep, and have a big cuddle when they've caalmed down.

I thought your title was actually quite funny. How ridiculous that anyone would take it literally.
Tomorrow is another day - clean slate and all that.

God, they won't despise you because you get cross occasionally. If you never get cross, they have no boundaries and then they're screwed up - and you're human. Give yourself a break.

oh give it a rest vegas
one thing greeny is NOT is thoughtless
she totally MEANT to upset you

totally

no go and boil your head

I toned the thread title down actually

I was going to threaten to remove ds1's head, scoop out the insides and send it to MIL as a vase

Pats Greeny on shoulders in MN-like un-huggy way.

And wanders off shaking head sadly at the fact that so many people are getting their panties in a twist over the thread title. Sense of humour failure, anyone?