To expect the Doctor to respect my wishes?

[loumum3]

I have not vaccinated my youngest child. I have done this after much research and made an informed decision. The Doctor's surgery has phoned me several times now and written requesting I go in for a discussion about this. I haven't got time for a visit to discuss this, nor do I want to so I said if I had to, I could talk about it on the phone....I have had the Doctor on the phone this afternoon grilling me about my choices, really trying to scare me into having the jabs done and trying to make me feel bad. She cannot see my point of view at all and has been very rude.

Is is really too much to expect a Doctor to respect the decisions I make about my own children ?

Has anyone else experienced this ?

Well lou I have never had meetings with anyone over this issue I have always remained very confident and firm but also had all the facts at my fingertips to refer to if necessary so nobody has doubted my viewpoint. It may help that I'm a solicitor and DH is a medic, I doubt it though. I wouldn't personally agree to go to a meeting at all, unless you want your child immunised. Just don't attend or agree to one. I would just be very firm on the phone, say that you have made an informed choice which you are entitled to do and will not be discussing it further. If it becomes necessary or relevant at a future date you will be open to reviewing your decision, but for now please accept your decision as final.. etc. Good luck, anyone posting on aibu gets a flaming especially if you are going against the grain a lot bit. This was akin to inviting a debate on vaccines which was always going to end with everyone piling in telling you you're wrong. Of course they'll say that, they haven't experienced the horrors that vaccines can inflict (in some cases) and nor have they read all the supressed research nor have they spoken to parents of children who have died after jabs, which has happened a lot more than you'd think, and nor have they had conversations with top consultants who refuse to immunise their own kids. Don't take it to heart.

Agree with jaffa, it could be procedural re measles etc. You do not have to consent or attend meetings though.

Great deal of commonsense on this thread, thank goodness!

Iloveflipflops - you are dangerous with all your anecdotes. Healthy 90 year-olds doesn't equate to 'measles isn't dangerous', which is what it seems you were trying to say.

IME the vast majority of medics do get their children vaccinated. My parents are both drs and they don't know anybody who hasn't had their kids vaccinated.

Thank you PackUptheMoon and jaffacake2 for 2 non hysterical replies. I really didn't expect such anger from people, I was just asking a question! Obviously everyone has different opinions and I can only presume these people haven't experienced what has happened to us as a family/group of friends (lucky them) I don't think non vaccination is a luxury as people have said, rather a necessity.

This wasn't meant to be a pro/anti vaccine debate but people have turned it into that.

I respect other peoples faiths/countries/parenting choices/life choices/sexuality/colour etc etc even though they may be different to mine and would never be rude to people just because my opinion is different to theirs.

Sorry, using friends pc which was logged into her account! The message above is from me.

packupthemoon - I was wondering if you would share your research - I sometimes struggle to defend my position as am not as articulate as I would like on the matter despite lots of research. Having info to hand would help.

I cant believe Crumpette's link says anorexia is caused by the diptheria vaccine. what a fantastic lack of understanding of mental illness there.

due to the dual posting.

Except your religion can't actually hurt other peoples children. Thats what you seem unable to understand.
Not vaxing your children puts ours at risk. If you are ok with that, fine, but don't pretend that isn't the issue here.

Is there a vaccine to prevent people from being utter twits on the interweb? It's more of a concern than measles nowadays IMHO.....

If the OP is telling her doctor the arguments the Iloveflipflops is using then no wonder the doctor isn't taking her seriously. They are the arguments you get from googling and finding the "whale" and "mercola" type websites.

Leonie Mercola makes money out of scremongering. He has been told to withdraw some of his claims by the FDSA because they were utter rubbish ie coconut oil.

The fact Wakefield chose to have an interview with him just confirmed everything I ever thought about Wakefield.

'i do subscribe to a little common sense and a mass of respect when it comes to the human body and its inner workings.' - well no you don't actually when you fail to protect your child from harm. I don't think all vaccines are 100% safe for all children - because of course nothing is - but I do think the risk from vaccination is miniscule compared to the risk from disease. NONE of the illnesses we vaccinate against have been eradicated. With increasing movement across the globe there is an increasing chance your child will be sitting next to or playing with an infectious child.
Living in a country with a largely vaccinated population does offer some protection but it isn't universal and it isn't lifelong.
And not vaccinating against tetanus is just ridiculous. How exactly do you think your child will avoid those microbes, how do you propose to protect them?

I respect the choices people make about their own health but respecting somebody else's choice to expose their child to known risk of harm in the name of protecting them from an unknown, unspecific and unproven form of harm is not somthing I will ever do.

I don't know what is worse, that your non-immunized child can get ill or that any sick or newborn little one could catch that illness and die because of it. So irresponsible, so delusional, you are not a doctor so how can you make such medical decisions? And if you know your child better than anybody, will you also extract teeth, give her fillings, operate on her and teach her at university? Such enormous egos...

LeonieDelt
only 100000% right about thyroid

thats just not enough certainty

10001% - now THAT would have been a clincher

(IQ >140 my @rse)

"That arrogance and conviction of unarguable correctness makes vaxers judge nonvaxers for their decisions, but you might, just might be wrong."

The same could be said looking from the other point of view.

Leoniedelt

Just because you went to Uni doesnt mean that you are able to differentiate between
correlation, co-existence and cause and effect.

Clearly you didnt major in science or maths or you would know that it's impossible to be more than 100% certain about anything.

Don't worry- there are thousands like you out there but most dont claim to be authorities on vaccinations.