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Original poster

To think that Gordon Brown is a fucking megalomaniac who should be removed from No10 for his and our safety?

247 replies

Rosieeo · 07/05/2010 06:46

The man must be on the edge: "OK, you've voted against me/my party in your thousands, but guess what? I don't care and will cling on to my bit of power for dear life because I am Gordon and I must be right."

I've never been so annoyed by politics in my life.

I know it might come to nothing anyway, but the bloody cheek of it all!

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/05/2010 06:48

I would probably say it slightly more politely but yes I agree he does not have the public mandate. (not sure anyone does actually)

tweetymum · 07/05/2010 06:49

Actually, he sounded like he was ready to go if it meant it kept the Tories out. Which is fair enough.

That said, the Tories haven't necessarily got the majority, which means that the British public still don't trust them enough do they? If they get the majority, well, its a different ball game.

That said, Brown is a good man at heart, and I think you are being overly harsh here.

BelleDameSansMorals · 07/05/2010 06:51

YABU if you think that Cameron & Co will provide a better government for the majority of people in this country.

And, before any assumptions are made, I would be considered the normal Tory demographic in terms of income/job/etc.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/05/2010 06:55

well thats true Belle.

am going to gently step out of thread as I'm in no fit state to debate!

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Rosieeo · 07/05/2010 06:55

It's not necessarily because I want the Tories in (although I do [not ashamed emoticon] ), more because it seems unfair! People have voted against him and the Labour party, why should they wheedle their way back into power.

S'not fair!

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SalFresco · 07/05/2010 06:56

YABU

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Rosieeo · 07/05/2010 06:59

Tweety, why do you think he's a good man? I just get the impression that he is either power-crazy or delusional.

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Nancy66 · 07/05/2010 07:03

...the thing is he wasn't even elected in the first place - is he going to serve a second term un-elected?

tweetymum · 07/05/2010 07:05

He inherited a mess from Blair and has muddled through it. But when I listen to him, I hear a man with deep convictions, and a moral core that I don't think Cameron has. I think Brown truly cares about this country and Cameron, well lets say 'flash' is the word that comes to my mind.

Brown also won my respect with his work in trying to eradicate poverty.

I don't necessarily support the Labour party, but I like Brown as a person, and I don't see him as the person you have described. If he stays, it will be for reasons of stability, not for the sake of his ego.

That's just my opinion though, but again, IMO, YABU, sorry.

preggerspollsred · 07/05/2010 07:07

I agree with Tweetymum

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Rosieeo · 07/05/2010 07:08

No, it's fine I think he does believe himself (ifswim) which scares me and the obsession with being Prime Minister upsets me. He's like a dog with a bone.

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mrsbean78 · 07/05/2010 07:13

I don't think anyone has a mandate.

In other countries, a coalition would be expected in this situation. Whoever can get the numbers together should be PM. If DC doesn't want to be in coalition, he loses his potential mandate. A minority seems untenable to me.

BelleDameSansMorals · 07/05/2010 07:16

tweetymum - I think you're spot on. I think if Mr Brown were in a different, less image/media obsessed age he would be considered very differently. I can't help but feel if he were "allowed" to be his somewhat grumpy and intense Scottish self, he'd be perceived in a more positive way. Just my perspective.

I can't help but feel that Messrs Cameron and Clegg are somewhat superficial.

Also, Mr Cameron (and possibly Mr Clegg) is younger then me. The Prime Minister is probably going to be younger than me. I am now, officially, old

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Rosieeo · 07/05/2010 07:20

mrsbean a coalition seems so wishy-washy, all of these politicians jostling for position and trying to discredit each other. I just want someone to get on with the job.

When do they give the actually numbers, à la proportional representation? Or do they? Can't remember, it's been a while since I was this interested!

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Nancy66 · 07/05/2010 07:21

..i think GB will be put under massive pressure to resign by his own party.

The Millipedes will see their chance - chances are there will be another general election called in the next six months and they'll see it as an opportunity to seize power.

mrsbean78 · 07/05/2010 07:23

Rosieoo I grew up in Ireland where there was almost always a coalition. My experience was that once the deal was done, it was much the same as if a majority party were in power - they do just get on with it.

It's amazing how much the parties in power tend to agree with one another.. once they have the power.. It tended to be worse where there were a few independents keeping a large majority in power than a coalition of two parties with some sort of mandate.

democraticqueen · 07/05/2010 07:26

YABU. i agree with tweety.

whifflegarden · 07/05/2010 07:32

tweety "he inherited a mess". So where has he been these past 13 years

Other than that, let's wait and see how things unfold. Part of this is mediaa spinning I'm sure and we don't really know what's going on. GB strikes me as a decent man, but if he goes for coalition he'll really go down in my estimation...

waitingforbedtime · 07/05/2010 07:35

I dont think it would have said much about his belief in his party if before the votes were even final he handed over the keys to no 10!

TheJollyPirate · 07/05/2010 07:37

According to the BBC news site it seems that GB has an obligation to remain in No.10 until the new Govt is decided/sorted out - so not megalomaniac but fulfilling the statutory demand of a hung parliment someone still has to run the country. It might be for 4 days it might be for 40 but until it IS sorted out he has a duty and obligation to remain. I didn't vote for him but even I can see that until it's sorted he HAS to remain.

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Rosieeo · 07/05/2010 07:44

JollyPirate it's not so much the statutory aspect of it that gets me, it's the sense that if there is a hung parliament he may try to continue the role of Prime Minister.

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LaurieFecktheToriesCake · 07/05/2010 07:47

Oh for goodness sake the Tories have failed terribly to take enough from Labour to be remotely credible

Of course Gordon should try and form a stable government. I don't think he's an egomaniac at all - he seems to be at the very least incredibly principled.

LaurieFecktheToriesCake · 07/05/2010 07:48

He won't continue as PM - he should for a while though.

picc · 07/05/2010 07:52

tweetymum said what i wanted to say,
and whatever you think about labour/ Gordon Brown, the country haven't exactly voted resoundingly for David Cameron to be PM, have they?

You can't have it both ways. With the electoral system we have, you need a majority to be outright winner. David Cameron didn't get that (or so it seems at the moment).

If he now starts saying it's unfair that someone else might lead the country, then he's admiting that the whole electoral system is unfair, and should make sure it's reformed!

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