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To think that Gordon Brown is a fucking megalomaniac who should be removed from No10 for his and our safety?

247 replies

Rosieeo · 07/05/2010 06:46

The man must be on the edge: "OK, you've voted against me/my party in your thousands, but guess what? I don't care and will cling on to my bit of power for dear life because I am Gordon and I must be right."

I've never been so annoyed by politics in my life.

I know it might come to nothing anyway, but the bloody cheek of it all!

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whittywan · 07/05/2010 22:36

Strange how they seem to dissapear as soon as it becomes obvious that their thinking is squiffy

policywonk · 07/05/2010 22:37

[BALD I've been meaning to thank you for something you did on another thread a few days ago re. advising discretion ]

policywonk · 07/05/2010 22:40

'That's an acceptable view but not necessarily a constitutonal one.' - if you mean your own view, then yes, fair enough. Of course we all have different opinions about what we would like to happen. It's just irritating to see people implying that GB's behaviour is somehow outrageously inappopriate.

Look I hate FPTP, I think it's a complete dog's dinner and I will dance on its grave if we ever get rid of it. But it is the current system, and it has not produced a winner. It has produced three losers, of which the Tories are the least loss-y

BoysAreLikeDogs · 07/05/2010 22:43

[PW I was mildly concerned so stuck oar in]

policywonk · 07/05/2010 22:47
swallowedAfly · 07/05/2010 23:01

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Kafka9 · 07/05/2010 23:58

That said, GB is a gift for the other parties and so I sincerely hope that he continues as leader of the Labour party long into the future.

By the way for the record, at 22.06 on this post I said,

'it is not staying in no10 agree he has to do this constitutionally, it is the posturing last night and today that is delusional. and unhelpful to the country at this particularly difficult time. '

This thread is about his conduct which by any reckoning is bizarre

MintHumbug · 08/05/2010 00:07

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Kafka9 · 08/05/2010 00:14

I know that is what the guidance says re first dibs at forming the gov-t, but in practice I think the reason the PM stays even if no majority is because the country must have a PM and it gives the 'others' time to discuss options. If the current incumbent has not got a majority it is likely they are not going to be able to form a sucessful coalition because they have 'lost' the election. But until an alternative is invited by the Queen to form a government the outgoing PM must remain in situ and hold the fort.

AWellHungParliament · 08/05/2010 00:20

YABU and perhaps a little hysterical but not having read the thread, it has probably been said and you have calmed yourself.

TwoIfBySea · 08/05/2010 01:14

YANBU but this country is pretty much done for at the moment. Brown has been awful, he is a prime example of the adage 'be careful what you wish for.'

I just hoped that the Lib Dems and the others would have done a lot better.

abr1de · 08/05/2010 14:35

' appalled at the 'system' here. Most of the democratic world is. They shake their heads in disbelief and laugh at the farce it is.'

Gosh yes, perhaps we should go for a system like you have in America, where hanging chads and $$$ decide who wins.

tartyhighheels · 08/05/2010 14:40

yabu

he has to stay until a new government us formed - that is the way it is with our constitution

edam · 08/05/2010 15:08

so what on earth are you objecting to, Kafka? Apparently you understand that the country needs a PM even while the squabbling goes on behind the scenes. Apparently you understand that Brown is just obeying the constitution. Yet you still keep on throwing insults at him. Exactly what is he doing that is wrong? Nothing at all.

Quite amusing to see the Tories whining like toddlers who haven't won pass the parcel, though. Most people who voted cast their ballot against them. After 13 years of Labour rule, an economic crisis and with an unpopular PM! And the Tories couldn't topple him - blimey, hardly a competent performance.

I wouldn't like to be Rebekah Wade or James Murdoch today, trying to explain to Rupert why they got it so badly wrong. With any luck the Lib Dems will stop the Tories savaging the Beeb in order to make millions for Murdoch. (Destroying one of our most successful exporters into the bargain.)

BalloonSlayer · 08/05/2010 17:22

"Quite amusing to see the Tories whining like toddlers who haven't won pass the parcel, though. Most people who voted cast their ballot against them."

Well said, edam.

Having voted LibDem several times as an attempt to be tactical (a vote for Labour is like pissing in the wind where I live), my vote was definitely an Anything-But-The-Tories vote. I wonder if the Libdems have forgotten just how many seats they gained in 1997, and have kept, due to tactical voters rather than their wonderful policies. If the LibDems now join with the Conservatives I will certainly never make the mistake of voting for them again, as to me they will forever be Tories.

I am sure the above paragraph makes me look stunningly stupid, but most of us electorate are, actually

AnnieLobeseder · 08/05/2010 17:32

Surely Labour can see from the way the vote has gone that people don't want the current government to stay, and don't like Gordon Brown. So if they want to get back any support or respect from the public, they need to reinvent themselves to some level and change their leadership.

edam · 08/05/2010 18:17

that's a fair point, Annie. Personally I'd like them to be a little more Labour, focusing on social justice rather than cosying up to bankers and big business (because we know where that got us). And repeal all this sodding repressive legislation - Labour is supposed to be a progressive party in favour of civil liberties, not attacking them.

Janos · 08/05/2010 19:34

Hmmm. All this GB is a power crazed mad man stuff is a bit wearing. he is simply doing what he is required to do by law.

He is PM until (and maybe after, although that is highly unlikely) all this wrangling is sorted. That's how it works when there is a hung parliament, as happened in 1974.

FuzzyDunlop · 08/05/2010 19:52

its parliamentary convention, not him clinging on. this is the protocol for hung parliaments and he is simply following it. don't worry he'll be gone soon enough and cameron will be sacking public sector workers by the tens of thousands, sounds like you can't wait!

AnnieLobeseder · 08/05/2010 20:01

It's all very well saying he can't bow out yet, but there's nothing stopping him from stating his intention to do so.

edam · 08/05/2010 20:06

Oh yeah, great idea, let's send the money markets into meltdown, shall we?

pocketmonster · 08/05/2010 21:39

Hear hear Janos and edam.

nighbynight · 08/05/2010 22:23

Oh get a grip, OP - things are not happening immediately. Clegg and Cameron need time to discuss. Gordon Brown is doing the correct thing - the sun headline was a joke.

Kafka9 · 08/05/2010 23:03

Edam, can only commend you for your loyalty to Gordon, but his own party are now breaking ranks! he is unfit to lead the Labour party and is certainly not of suitable character or judgement to lead this country. Many commentators in the press, I am guessing you only the Mirror?, agree with me. Chill out, stop throwing the insults and try to stay on message, this thread conerns GB - there is a depressed lefties thread somewhere on Mumsnet.

edam · 08/05/2010 23:19

I'm not 'loyal to Gordon' as it happens. Not terribly keen on him at all. Just irritated by the stupidity of people saying he's doing something wrong by hanging on in no. 10 while Clegg decides whether he's going to go steady with Dave.