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To think that Nick Griffin is misunderstood and actually a nice chap?

824 replies

carrotsarenottheonlyvegetable · 29/04/2010 11:25

I heard him being interviewed this morning on the Today programme.

Firstly, it turns out he's not racist or against immigration! Apparently, he says it's ok for French people to come here (there's not that many that want to so its ok). AND he says that Irish people can come here too because they're really all British! So that's nice. I was a bit confused because I thought they'd spent all those years bombing us because they didn't want to be British but I guess I've got that all wrong.

He's not going to let Algerian asylum seekers come though, but I don't think it matters because they'll just get killed where they are in their own country so that won't be a problem for them much longer.

And the best thing is... he's going to give £50,000 to anyone who's not "pure British" to leave the country and go back to where they came from! How cool is that! So I'm now deciding whether to go back to my Great-Grandmother's origins in Russia, or my Great Grandfather's in Finland. Now, apparently this money is going to come from what he called stupid anti-Climate Change projects so although much of Russia and pretty much all of Finland is a bit chilly, as the climate changes because they money is being spent on me, they'll get warmer and I'll be all toasty!

Brilliant!

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Ivykaty44 · 29/04/2010 12:52

being racist is if you say those people from that conmtriy can come here but those people from that country can't come here

that is racist

If you state that you want a white husband that is a racist statement, just as racist would be to say I only want a polish husband

it is racist as you are picking someone by there nationality

therefor BNP leader is racist

lljkk · 29/04/2010 12:52

You know, for £50k I might seriously immigrate . Genetically I'm overwhelmingly British, but since I only have a foreign passport, I bet I can "pass".

I am pretty sure that in BNP's last election leaflets they had pictures of Italians etc. that were supposed to be representative "British people like you".

ChickensHaveSinisterMotives · 29/04/2010 12:54

I was thinking of the, er, appendage. I have no evidence for this opinion, of course, just a sneaking suspicion about men who want to tell everyone else what to do....In fact, I have long believed that all politicians are built like action man in the groin region.

muddleduck · 29/04/2010 12:55

My parents and I were born overseas but my grandparents were british...

so all i need is my 'home' country to get a similar law and then I can keep yoyo-ing between the two countries as they each pay me loads of cash to get rid of me.

I can't wait

ImSoNotTelling · 29/04/2010 12:56

its xenophobic rather than racist surely

nationaity isn't teh same as race

if you say you want a white husband its racist

if you say you want a polish husband it is certainy something-ist but i'm not sure what the word it

like saying you eg hate the french or whatever is xenophobic, not racist

i think

carrotsarenottheonlyvegetable · 29/04/2010 12:57

Re: Irish bombing us - absolutely take on board comments that it was the IRA and I 100% apologise for it being badly written and obviously incorrect/inaccurate. TBH I was extremely irritated by his statement that all Irish people would be happy to be called "British" when clearly that's not the case and it wasn't in any way meant to be an Irish dig - quite the opposite in fact - more being at his ignorance.

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ImSoNotTelling · 29/04/2010 12:57

what is the "ist" for not liking "forriners" does anyone know?

BecauseImWorthIt · 29/04/2010 12:58

There must be some impurities in here somewhere ....

BettyTurnip · 29/04/2010 12:59

If there's ever a film made and they need an actor to play Griffin, then this is your man.

Apologies to Roger the plumber.

earlyriser · 29/04/2010 13:00

Has anyone looked at Nick Griffen's family tree,it'd be fantastic if he went on 'who do you think you are' and it turns out great great great granny came from africa.

binjibaghi · 29/04/2010 13:04

Ahmmm chickenshavesinstermotives are you just trying to sound like you know what you are talking about !!!!!
Unionist are not bombers it is loyalist factions such as UDA UFF
Get your facts right before trying to correct other people !!!

AbsOfCroissant · 29/04/2010 13:04

Woo hoo! Where do I claim my £50k? I'm going back home baby, and flying Business if BNP's paying, thank you very much (no 11 hours in economy for this little immigrant any more).

They did drop off a leaflet yesterday, which I tried writing swear words on, but pen was working, so I tore it up and jumped on it.

I was thinking what ~I would say if I met our local BNP rep. I was thiking of starting with "so what kind of person would you like living in Britain? Someone who's paid all their taxes, paid for their own education, contributes to the economy and society? Really? That's the kind of person you want, as that's the kind of person I am. It's a pity I'm an immigrant though, so give me my £50k and I'll bugger off". (it got more colourful the more I thought about it walking to the shops. Was quite the speech by the end).

JaneS · 29/04/2010 13:04

ImSo - I think the closest is xenophobic (Greek, 'fear of those from strange lands'). Not an 'ist', sorry.

What I particularly love about the BNP is the way the chatted to me for a very long time about how they were going to get everyone jobs, and yes, if my partner needed a job, they would help him.

Reckon I kept them talking a good half hour before letting on that DP is Russian.

ImSoNotTelling · 29/04/2010 13:06

I have some irish but apparently that's fine

so how is it going to work

will everyone be DNA tested (might throw up some inersting results ie everyone has to leave including nick)

will it be on family trees (what if you haven't got one? will nick's govt pay for genealogists? does this mean genealogists will all be voting bnp? )

will it be based on if you look a bit funny, talk forrin, or wear weirdy clothes, like?

itsmeitsmeolord · 29/04/2010 13:07

Thanks for clarifying carrots.

ImSoNotTelling · 29/04/2010 13:08

They could base it on whether my MIL thinks you are alright or not.

(don't tell DH I said that )

EricNorthmansmistress · 29/04/2010 13:09

Do you know what, if he wants to give DH 50 grand to go 'home' he's welcome to, we could buy an awesome house in his country for that! I'd happily do LDR I reckon, then once the BNP got kicked out of power in 5 years he could come back and we'd still have our sweeeeet place in the sun - everyone's a winner.

Ivykaty44 · 29/04/2010 13:12

It is racist - as you are picking polish are brown english are white. It could be Nigerian and english or what ever two places - that may be cultraly different and different coloured skin,

It is racist that is the ist

AbsOfCroissant · 29/04/2010 13:14

Oh wait, where exactly does he stand on paying French people to go back? Because if he's pro, DP and I will get £100k between the two of us! Or DP could argue the "my parents are from North Africa. I'm half Algerian OOOGA BOOGA!" line, and scare them into giving him the cash.

contemplates holiday locations

brightongirldownunder · 29/04/2010 13:17

I'm liking the £50k idea - does that include repatriation back to the UK?
If it does, wehay...back of the net!
That 100,000 knicker for Dh and me!
On second thoughts, moving back to apartheid BNP Britain...hmmm....no thanks....

You do know he has trotters for feet don't you?!!

ImSoNotTelling · 29/04/2010 13:19

polish are brown?

but poles come in all sorts of colours and races, same as the british

I mean, if someone says they want to marry a pole, that only says they want to marry that nationality. as poles can be any race religion or ethnic origin, its not a racist comment.

it's xenophobic surely.

if you say "i hate the french" (sorry abs just an example) then that is not racist. the french are not a race.

AbsOfCroissant · 29/04/2010 13:20

It's alright, DP says that all. The. Time. (he's French. ish)

Ivykaty44 · 29/04/2010 13:23

So are you saying that the BNp leader is xenophobic and not racist? cos he wants to send not pure british home

what is pure british?

liamsdaddy · 29/04/2010 13:28

I'd love to see "pure British" defined.

Is that someone who can prove they are related to brit/celt root stock prior to the Angles, Saxons , Jutes and Romans immigrating into the country (and probably a few others too). Oh, but did the celts emigrate in as well? But then we all came from Africa anyway

Maybe, say anyone who has come into the country since 1701 (since that is when Britain was formed) - I guess we better kick Prince Phillip out then.

StrictlyKatty · 29/04/2010 13:29

Ummm I'm not keen on Nick Griffin by any means but the Irish bombing us bit was seriously below the belt.

WTF! How can people get away with making such blooming huge generalisations! The Irish didn't bomb anyone for the record. The IRA did

I also have no where to be sent back to I really wish I was a little bit German, I'd take the air fare to be sent there tbh. DH on the other hand, woohoo £50,000 and a nice Med Island for him