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To think that Nick Griffin is misunderstood and actually a nice chap?

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carrotsarenottheonlyvegetable · 29/04/2010 11:25

I heard him being interviewed this morning on the Today programme.

Firstly, it turns out he's not racist or against immigration! Apparently, he says it's ok for French people to come here (there's not that many that want to so its ok). AND he says that Irish people can come here too because they're really all British! So that's nice. I was a bit confused because I thought they'd spent all those years bombing us because they didn't want to be British but I guess I've got that all wrong.

He's not going to let Algerian asylum seekers come though, but I don't think it matters because they'll just get killed where they are in their own country so that won't be a problem for them much longer.

And the best thing is... he's going to give £50,000 to anyone who's not "pure British" to leave the country and go back to where they came from! How cool is that! So I'm now deciding whether to go back to my Great-Grandmother's origins in Russia, or my Great Grandfather's in Finland. Now, apparently this money is going to come from what he called stupid anti-Climate Change projects so although much of Russia and pretty much all of Finland is a bit chilly, as the climate changes because they money is being spent on me, they'll get warmer and I'll be all toasty!

Brilliant!

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eatsushi · 02/05/2010 17:27

a girl tried to kill herself because of a bnp tormentor

DP the BNP have some influence, I'm glad for your children and the children that are likely to be targeted by the bnp that you do not send your children to the BNP youth camps.

I have to agree with BOF - you know what the BNP are about - you support them so in turn you also support sexism, racism, disabilism, homophobia.

Lulumaam · 02/05/2010 17:27

it is not democracy to deem some human beings more equal, deserving of life and respect based on their skin colour, religion, sexual orinentation etc....

stop backtracking DP. it is not about democracy.. it is about all those pesky job stealing immigrants and forriners

daftpunk · 02/05/2010 17:35

eatsushi;

Those words have been around for years, the BNP didn't invent them....plus 1000's of children are bullied at school for all sorts of reasons...being fat, being ginger,...bullied for being black is probably very rare...

RunawayWife · 02/05/2010 17:36

Dp, we need to be in Europe, we need migration to grow (although yes we do need to look at the people sneaking in and not doing it by the book).
We need Dr's and nurses from other country's, we need people to bring their skills here.
We have a lot of home grown people living elsewhere in the world, how boring would it be if everyone lived and died in the house they were born in, we have the means now to travel and mix and move and learn and it is a wonderful thing.

I would not want my children to grow up in a world where they only ever saw white able bodied people and never set foot out of Britain,

You know that the BNP will never run Great Britain, so I fail to understand why you think they are worth following, they spread hate and distrust and lies nothing more.
Why are you lashing out?

Lulumaam · 02/05/2010 17:38

DP, i asked you earlier what you do as an activist, and also how you as a woman, can support the BNP as a misigynistic party..eatsushi asked the same

cna you please ansewr
?

and don't trot out the line about you can support a party and not all of their policies..

eatsushi · 02/05/2010 17:38

hey daftpunk there is nothing british about the bnp

eatsushi · 02/05/2010 17:41

Yes DP as a woman and mother why do you support the bnp?

RunawayWife · 02/05/2010 17:41

Dp you say bullied for being black is probably very rare,
Yes in Tower hamlets but if you live in a little village in Scotland say and are the only black person there it may be a very different story.

I was one of 3 white people in my primary school and I never got bullied for being white, it never entered my head I would be.
I got called a honky at hagh school once, to which I replied "yeah and your an idiot"

People (children especially) can be pure evil and will always find something to be nasty over.

RunawayWife · 02/05/2010 17:42

you're not your...doh

eatsushi · 02/05/2010 17:44

If something is rare then is that ok? Is it ok to gloss over it?

Is that what you are saying DP? I.e. the fact that most people will never ever vote for the BNP does that mean that the BNP does not matter?

SanctiMoanyArse · 02/05/2010 17:46

DP might run a few clouncils?

Who do you think we have to apply to every time we need school support, social services input? Who so you think runs the special schools?

RunawayWife · 02/05/2010 17:49

DP I think you can see pitfalls in your own argument can you not?

I sometimes wonder if you just do this for a laugh as you know the kind of response it gets, I mean you know you are never going to get anyone here to join you in your views, I wonder if we are being used as some sort of research paper.

You have a right to your view, You have a right to air it, free speech and all, but do you not have something better to do?

daftpunk · 02/05/2010 17:51

SMA;

The BNP have said that they will give priority to British born people for housing, those British born people could be black or Asian. They will stop all school visits to mosques for children who are not Muslim...they want to promote christianity...tbh, they want to get control of councils more than they want a few MP's...if they control councils they have power.

eatsushi · 02/05/2010 17:51

bnp crap councillors

ImSoNotTelling · 02/05/2010 17:53

"The BNP will never run this country...everyone knows that...so all this talk about killing disabled children is total bollox..."

So you accept that if they were to get in, then people might have to start hiding their children?

Why vote for a party you don't want to see in power?

is this some kind of bizarre protest vote? Given that you don't seem to agree with a lot of their policies.

So corporal punishment. They say yes, full stop. you say yes, over a certain age. that is not their policy. their policy is yes to corporal punishment in schools which will include beating 4yo. There is no minimum age for beatings in their policy.

this is all such a load of shite.

Lulumaam · 02/05/2010 17:53

could you please answer my question re your role as an activist and how as a woman you can support a blatantly misogyist party?

SanctiMoanyArse · 02/05/2010 17:57

What the hell ahs that got to do with it DP? Compeltely off point.

If you had a child with SN, or if you ever have to care for someone with SN (and a great many of us will one day with our partners and aprents) would you be happy applying for help from a cpuncil run by a party that spouted this sort of view?

Becuase I would not.

If you had to hand your disabled child over to care becuase of their SN would you feel happy that the BNP had a say ion the arovision?

If you say yes you ahve no empathy becuase you wouldn't, nobody would.

daftpunk · 02/05/2010 17:57

Councils BNP are after;

Barking & Dagenham

Stoke-on-Trent

Leicestershire

Manchester

Barnsley

eatsushi · 02/05/2010 17:59

Perish the thought of DP with a child with SN.

BitOfFun · 02/05/2010 17:59

Why do you support a Nazi party, daftpunk? How is that in any way conscionable? How can you hold your head up and support a party which would see disabled children be killed? On what planet do you think you can defend this vile bunch? And you are proud to be one of them? Why? Why?

eatsushi · 02/05/2010 18:01

DP answer the question - why are you an ACTIVIST for the BNP?

What does it involve?

How does it sit with you being female?

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Lulumaam · 02/05/2010 18:06

DP - WHY ARE YOU NOT ANSWERING?? IS IT BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT REALLY AN ACTIVIST, BUT JUST BEING A TROUBLE MAKER, BIGGING YOURSELF UP ?

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