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To be hacked off over "contaminated"heroin.

299 replies

fallon8 · 13/04/2010 11:06

I may have pressed wrong button and posted this elsewhere,I aplogise if I have.
Dog walking, thinking time.
Why does Radio Scotland in droning voice keep telling us that ex amount of peolple have died thru taking comtaminted heroin? Apparently is contains Anthrax and a few bods have died. Surely, they shouldnt be taking the bloody stuff in the first place.
Thru' no fault of my own,I have been treated for Breast Cancer 4 times and continue on long term stuff to try and keep it at bay. I sometimes have to argue my case to get a more expensive drug which has less side effects.Why should resources which could be spent on me and others like me be used for twats who bring it on themselves? Dont mention, smoking, too much alchohol, obesity either!!! To get into the Chemo Room,you rung the gauntlet of patients hooked up to their treatment fagging it outside,i know they maybe on the way out, but I dont care,but why waste the cash? I know, I know, I shouldnt let it get to me,but it does.

OP posts:
tartyhighheels · 13/04/2010 12:08

She is however saying that some people are more worthy of treatment and that can never ever be the case - it has serious implications for us all if we start down that road.

yet others who won't make the effort to look after themselves, do get treatment.

How do we know this, and who makes this judgement??? we have no idea why people are where they are and how they got there

My daughter had diabetes no fault of her own she was 3.5 when she got it - should she be able to access more help and support than someone who had neglected themselves and ended up with diabetes? She is as my mother was no more entitled to help than any other person in this country. We are very fortunate to even be able to access primary care like this, children all over the world are dying of things which are preventable and curable, lucky us to have all this available to us no matter what our background.

LittleMrsHappy · 13/04/2010 12:10

Prettycandles, she is saying that, she does not care about them as people, she defines their addiction as the people, and not people who have a addiction.

A Few "bod" have died, the are people not bods, they have left loved ones.

They are not twats etc....

You are not above anybody who has a illness, and Yes a addiction is illness in the medical world, they didn't choose to be a addict, the same way you didn't choose to have cancer.

Sometimes life just plain and simply sucks!

Malificence · 13/04/2010 12:14

YANBU - my sister has terrible health problems yet has to pay for prescriptions from her benefits, she knows ( far too many) people who get cash eachday for their "addictions", £10 a day for a heroin fix, £20 a day for alcoholics - they deserve nothing, hard lives? boo bloody hoo.

Having a bad childhood isn't an excuse for being a wastrel or a parasite.

LittleMrsHappy · 13/04/2010 12:17

It all boils down me me me society.

dustycups · 13/04/2010 12:21

i once was used heroin for a length of time and have been a self harmer for years but does that mean that if i was to become ill, i should be told i wouldnt be treated because i made a few mistakes and my children should lose there mother!!!!

i think the term is think before you type!!!!

SpicedGerkin · 13/04/2010 12:23

Which country is that Malificence, as anyone on benifits here gets free prescriptions and where do they hand out this free cash to addicted people?

Sassybeast · 13/04/2010 12:24

OP - wishing you all the very best in your continuing battle. AIBU sometimes descends into a nest of insults and name calling and you have been on the receiving end of some sickening examples of aggression. I understand some of your frustrations but sadly, as this country sinks further and further into a pit of absolution of any personal responsibility, those affected by devastating illnesses, some of which are caused by lifestyle choices, will all have to fight it out for the best possible treatments.

LittleMrsHappy · 13/04/2010 12:25

spiced gherkins, Im assuming she means that people with addictions get £10 extra top up money a WEEK not day, for admitting they have a addiction, but with that £10 extra they have to attend AA etc...

skihorse · 13/04/2010 12:28

dusty Congratulations on getting clean!

SpicedGerkin · 13/04/2010 12:28

LMH - That isn't what she said though. Twice she said day That isn't true so why leave it unchallenged?

'you have been on the receiving end of some sickening examples of aggression.'

Wheras OPs posts are of the fluffy bunny variety?

Malificence · 13/04/2010 12:29

It's here in the UK and yes, my sister has to pay for her prescriptions from her disabilty benefits ( which she will shortly lose because they have changed the "rules") and yes, addicts get free cash every single day to fund their lifestyle. In Staffordshire in case you were wondering.

She knows several people who are getting this - mixes with some lovely people, my sister.

EricNorthmansmistress · 13/04/2010 12:29

YABU
and really really nasty. Surviving cancer doesn't give you carte blanche to be a bitch.

You know fuck all about addiction or addicts or the lives of anyone else who receives treatment on the NHS, so stop comparing them to you.

Malificience - I really don't know what country you are talking about, in the UK people on benefits get free prescriptions and nobody gives cash to people for being addicts. Daily Mail bullshit much?

SpicedGerkin · 13/04/2010 12:31

Sorry Malificence but i don't believe that.

The prescription thing with disability benfit is something i disagree with also but that isn't the fault of anyone mentioned in the OP.

dollycakes · 13/04/2010 12:32

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EricNorthmansmistress · 13/04/2010 12:33

Mal - if your sister is alco claiming incapacity benefit due to her health issues she should not be paying for her prescriptions. If she is claiming DLA on top of working then she isn't on benefits.

Are you sure that your sister's 'friends' aren't living in hostels where their benefits are handed out by the hostel daily? There is one in my area that does that - they get their bennies paid to the hostel who give them a tenner a day to help them budget.

The idea that the council gives crisp tenners and twenties to addicts on a daily basis to buy drugs or booze is just............sorry but it's pure bullshit.

Malificence · 13/04/2010 12:34

Eric - my sister doesn't get free precriptions! She has to bloody well pay.
She is on incapacity benefit and dla - if she hadn't worked a day in her life and was on IS, she would get free prescriptions, ironic much?
The one person I know personally to get this cash lives in the flat upstairs from her - he gets £10 a day in cash.

WhoIsAsking · 13/04/2010 12:34

YABU

And I don't really understand how these "few bods" dying has any impact on expensive cancer drugs.

LittleMrsHappy · 13/04/2010 12:34

my sister has terrible health problems yet has to pay for prescriptions from her benefits, she knows ( far too many) people who get cash eachday for their "addictions", £10 a day for a heroin fix, £20 a day for alcoholics - they deserve nothing, hard lives?

Maybe I mis-read the quote?!?, as people on benefits do get £10 extra for being a addict, but it comes with a clause.

SpicedGerkin · 13/04/2010 12:36

LMH - Three times in that post it says a day, and again in a different one, that simply doesn't happen, unless as has been said they get their benefit daily rather than in a lump sum.

SparklyGothKat · 13/04/2010 12:37

My brother's girlfriend is in the same boat, on DLA and IB, and has to pay for her medications, she is on long term IB therefore has to pay as its more than the government say she has to live on

LittleMrsHappy · 13/04/2010 12:38

Mal, Im sorry but I dont believe you, and the reason I dont, is that I know this system as I work alongside it.

Sorry but your hearsay is wrong and completely untrue.

trice · 13/04/2010 12:38

I understand where the op is coming from. Being seriously ill through no fault of your own makes you very intolerant of other peoples risk seeking behaviour. It also makes you very angry and sometimes that anger is misdirected.

Fallon - life is not fair and people do not appreciate the health they are given. Good people get sick sometimes and bad people stay healthy and live till they are 110. I am sorry for what you are going through.

Alouiseg · 13/04/2010 12:40

I agree with OP.

I also wonder why it's news. Smackheads are well aware of the risks of contamination in drugs.

It's so anti Darwinian to keep protecting people who have no interest in protecting themselves.

I fully expect a flaming from the human rights brigade and relish it somewhat.

LittleMrsHappy · 13/04/2010 12:41

Spiced Gherkins, I have no idea what you are talking about, she has come on and said what I suspected what she said from her post.

So really I dont get the problem is, she has confirmed what I suspected

dustycups · 13/04/2010 12:43

thanks skihorse!!!
i agree that money shouldnt be spent on keeping peoples addictions going and more on helping them get better!! but to be honest if they saved any money on these people it wouldnt go towards cancr sufferers etc, it would prob be spent on something stupid by some high paid man in a suit!!