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Challenge 25 is a joke!!!

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IveStillGotIt · 08/04/2010 23:03

Ive just been to a well known supermarket with ds WHO'S NEARLY 10, and dp, had a full trolly of shopping £80! i.e food, washing powder, general household stuff, and a bottle of wine for myself and a create of lager that was on offer for dp, and the jobsworth at the till had the cheek to ask me for i.d! FFS im 28! ds is nearly 10! dp is 32! We were doing a full weeks shopping, and when she asked me, i pointed out ds and she had the cheek to say "that doesnt prove anything these days" well i totally let rip at her, common sense has obviously went out the window! She just shrugged her shoulders at me and demanded i.d, so i gave her my provisonal photo card license, and she had the cheek to hum and hay over the photo cause ive dyed my hair from dark brown to dark red! A supervisor (who i went to school with) came over and comfirmed it was ok to serve me, then she grudgenly put it through saying "if it was up to me, i dont think your old enough"!!! AIBU or should i put in a formal letter of complaint?

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ElleBing · 09/04/2010 23:08

purits and abouteve, unless I'm being a complete thicko, I think that ScreamingEagle was getting lathered up over people behaving like complete fuckwits because a higher power than they has told them that asking for I.D is compulsory in lots of cases. I don't think that she was questining whether the policy was ridiculous or not (which it is), just that twats making life unpleasant for shop workers is a bit unnecessary.

Incidentally, I saw a checkout girl getting abuse off a middle-aged tit in a suit because she asked him for I.D (he was hard to put an age to) and he wouldn't show it "out of principle." The girl told him it was tough and she couldn't serve him without and if he didn't like it, he could go elsewhere. He demanded to speak to the manager, who when he turned up agreed with the cashier and told him to shop elsewhere. Good for them.

ElleBing · 09/04/2010 23:12

"We have managed for centuries with not having need for ID. Why do you think that it is necessary now? Do you not worry about the erosion of your liberty?"

Pffft. We managed for centuries without a lot of things so that's a weak argument.

I'm also fed up of this "ID cards by stealth" bollocks. No-one is going to think "I get asked for I.D a lot when buying booze. If only I had an I.D card..." They'll just be more likely to carry their drivers' licence or whatever. This whole "big brother" paranoia is getting very bloody boring IMO. I actually believe that the government are trying to tackle little scallies getting pissed on cheap cider and rampaging through the streets. The very people who are on this thread whining about "loss of civil liberties" are probably the same ones who whine when their street is getting smashed up by pissed chavs. The irony.

farmerjones · 09/04/2010 23:13

purits,much as you may want to, we dont live in utopia. nor do we live in a tiny village where everyone knows every one else.

ScreaminEagle · 09/04/2010 23:13

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purits · 09/04/2010 23:14

So you think "I was only following orders" is a reasonable position to take?

ElleBing · 09/04/2010 23:18

Oh for Gods' sake, Purits. What are you suggesting that cashiers actually do about this? When all is said and done, they're paid to do a job and if IDing certain people is part of that job, they can't just not do it because it offends some idiots with a Ben Elton complex. Why do some people think that this Challenge 25 thing is done to personally inconvenience them? You're not that important; we're all getting the same treatment.

You might not like it but ultimately it's hardly akin to the Nazis banging down your door and asking to see your papers. If you hate it that much, write to Gordon and tell him. Don't take it out on the person who gets paid minimum wage for maximum bullshit off people with "the world is all about ME" complexes.

ScreaminEagle · 09/04/2010 23:19

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IveStillGotIt · 09/04/2010 23:20

I would like to point out, again, that it wasnt the fact she i.d'ed me that annoyed me, it was her mannor and tone towards me and the fact that she looked at me as if i was shit and my dp as if he was some sort of perv. Yes, girls can get pg very young nowadays, but my ds is nearly 10, we were doing a weekly shop, how many underagers would buy a trolly load of shopping to sneak through some booze? How many 7yo girls have ever gave birth in this country? Cause thats how old i would have had to of been when i had ds in order to be underage.

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ravenAK · 09/04/2010 23:31

I think I should be able to 'swan about the place without ID', actually. Given that it's perfectly legal to do so.

& whilst I have every sympathy with checkout staff having to implement this nonsense, well, if a supermarket asks me to produce ID/tapdance naked through fresh produce/shop without my 5,4 & 2 year old dc, before they'll sell me a bottle of wine - well, I'm going to shop elsewhere.

I wouldn't condone the 'abandoning a fortnightly shop' tactic precisely because it's just obliging some poor sod who didn't make the silly policy to trundle one's shopping back onto the shelves, but I can see why people do tbh.

purits · 09/04/2010 23:39

"they're paid to do a job and if IDing certain people is part of that job they can't just not do it"

I totally agree with that. But it's only certain people that they need to ID. They are pissing off their customers because they are IDing all and sundry without bothering to engage their brains or use common sense. They are lazily relying on the "I don't make the rules" excuse to do ridiculous things like asking 64 year olds for ID.

angelbabe1982 · 09/04/2010 23:43

Am back from another joyless shift at work. Have read all posts after my last one. FWIW i think IDing anyone that is an oap is just plain ridiculous - I use my common sense. Hell if my mother or grandmother got asked for id i would be teed off - but would not be rude to cashier.
I was just trying to point out the outcomes of not following store policy.
What REALLY pisses me off is alleged adults having temper tantrums at tills about something which is not that important.
If the OP is not annoyed about the id, but the piss poor way the checkout person went about it then she should complain about the rudeness.
It is not acceptable imo to be rude to customers - i am always polite when asking for id, but if a customer starts on me, I will tell them that I am not willing to serve them any longer!

ElleBing · 09/04/2010 23:50

I've never seen a 65yr old get IDed. I thought it was just anecdotal hyperbole designed so that people can have diva fits on threads like this just because the world doesn't spin to their rhythm.

KristinaM · 09/04/2010 23:52

there is no need to be rude to the staff , they are just doing their job

if you get poor service you should complain to a manager, not "let rip" at the staff. ditto if you dont agree with the store's policy on asking for ID. the person at the checkout didn't write the policy

purits · 09/04/2010 23:55

Try reading thd thread. Two separate posters have commenting on their 64 y.o. mother getting ID'd.
tummytime at 10:13
saltire at 15:50

angelbabe1982 · 09/04/2010 23:56

Thank you kristinaM - exactly how i feel! People should complain to store manager about rude/poor service and contact head office to complain about policies.
am off to bed after a nice big calming glass of wine

ElleBing · 09/04/2010 23:57

Do you think I have time to sit and read entire threads, lovey? I'm busy drinking my wine that I did not get ID checked on.

Why did I not get ID checked? I knew I was looking a bit ropey but I'll be fucked if I'm not getting ID'd and 65 y/os are

cat64 · 10/04/2010 00:04

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angelbabe1982 · 10/04/2010 00:12

Cat64 - i think check 25 is fab, but only when used properly. IDing all and sundry is a waste of time. I also think that the places seeling age restricted product (esp alcohol) need to have much better training in place as this is what causes most of the problems. the training we got was pretty damn poor - I knew more than the poor manager doing it (used to be duty manager in pub before ds came along)
what i object to is people going off on one at the poor person behind the checkout who has perhaps made a bad judgement - its not difficult to be polite is it?
And lets face it - its kinda nice to be asked for id after a rough night with kids (even if all we need want is a coupla bottles of vino!

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LaurieFairyCake · 10/04/2010 01:05

I nearly got id'd for buying firelighters in Wilkinson yesterday - luckily the cashier said that I was probably over 21.

It did cross my mind though that since I was buying firelighters to light my wood burning stove it was a pretty weird policy - would a 20 year old really not have to light a real fire ????

CheekyVimtoGal · 10/04/2010 17:46

I have to say i am 24 and i always gets asked for ID at Tescos and i HATE it.

ProfYaffle · 10/04/2010 17:56

I got age checked at the self serve till yesterday for buying BBQ skewers! "It's these young kids" said the Morrisons lady "they'll do anything these days"

Eh?

tummytime · 10/04/2010 18:18

Just to say my mum did definitely get id'd age 64. I was shopping at the same time and had gone through a different till so saw her digging out her driving licence. We thought it was hilarious - a lovely but definitely 64 year old looking lady with very grey hair and a lot of crow feet being suspected of looking under 18.

We did mention it to customer services who also thought (rather less flatteringly) that it was hilarious.

ILovePlayingDarts · 10/04/2010 22:09

Hi Coldtits, I tried your link, and got most of them within a couple of years, but it does go to show it's not easy, and would be hard in a shop when you have less time to judge.