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Challenge 25 is a joke!!!

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IveStillGotIt · 08/04/2010 23:03

Ive just been to a well known supermarket with ds WHO'S NEARLY 10, and dp, had a full trolly of shopping £80! i.e food, washing powder, general household stuff, and a bottle of wine for myself and a create of lager that was on offer for dp, and the jobsworth at the till had the cheek to ask me for i.d! FFS im 28! ds is nearly 10! dp is 32! We were doing a full weeks shopping, and when she asked me, i pointed out ds and she had the cheek to say "that doesnt prove anything these days" well i totally let rip at her, common sense has obviously went out the window! She just shrugged her shoulders at me and demanded i.d, so i gave her my provisonal photo card license, and she had the cheek to hum and hay over the photo cause ive dyed my hair from dark brown to dark red! A supervisor (who i went to school with) came over and comfirmed it was ok to serve me, then she grudgenly put it through saying "if it was up to me, i dont think your old enough"!!! AIBU or should i put in a formal letter of complaint?

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IveStillGotIt · 09/04/2010 18:23

I would just like to point out AGAIN, i was only rude to her, AFTER she was rude to me, she made an insulting remark, looked me up and down as if i was shit, looked at my 32yo dp as if he was some kind of pervert who go's out with underage girls, and spoke to me in a very rude and patronising mannor, then more or less said it wasnt even me in the photo! Even the supervisor (who i went to school with) was looking abit miffed with her attitude, like i said before, had she made a little bro comment, i would have had a laugh and a joke with her, but no she made out i was some sort of primary school mother, and my dp was some sort of perv!

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MrsVidic · 09/04/2010 18:46

My 36 year old dp got asked for id in morrisons and they refused to accept it as it was a paper driving lisence
He was mortified, I am used to the id question now- its wierd I get checked more now at 26 than I did at 16!

You think being mistaken for being young is a good thing?- well the other day I was in town, post gym workout and pre shower (as my gym had run out of towles) in my shorts and adidas jumper and I get chatted up by a 15 year old skally. 'Alright? I'll have a bit of that- you go to my college innit!'
I was truly speechless!

IveStillGotIt · 09/04/2010 18:58

MrsVidic- Im always getting chatted up from skallys (we call them 'neds' up here!) My mates 19yo bro and his 'crew' are always trying it on! It was handy though when ds was smaller, they would help me up the stairs to my house with the buggy and offer to carry my bags for me! Not all hoodys are 'yobs' lol, i dont know whether or not to be flattered or offended though, when they refer to me as milf!!!

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MrsVidic · 09/04/2010 19:23

I aggree IveStillGotIt, most skallys I meet are really helpful- I just don't often get mistaken for one of them!

sparkle12mar08 · 09/04/2010 19:29

It's ID cards by stealth and it drives me absolutely bloody nuts! I loathe and abhor the nannying. And to all those cashiers here, do you really, truly, honestly think that a 35-40y old looks like an 18-25 year old? Come on now, and be honest with yourselves. Yes I can see that a 25y old might possibly look 18, but a 35 year old woman - honestly?

It's bollocks, and we all know it.

5Foot5 · 09/04/2010 19:49

I am 47. They never ask for ID.

purits · 09/04/2010 20:10

"It's bollocks, and we all know it."

Well said. Come and join my campaign of civil disobedience!

Saltire · 09/04/2010 20:34

Sparkle - even if they do think a 35 year old woman is 25, then she is still legally old enough to buy alcohol. I think the same as you think ID cards by stealth

sparkle12mar08 · 09/04/2010 21:06

Purits - I must confess that I have once left my £150+ half packed shop all over the belt and packing area of a nameless supermarket when the old-enough-to-have-known-better assistant refused to sell me the four bottles of really quite expensive wine because I didn't have any id with me that she would accept. I wasn't rude but was icily polite, and simply sauntered off and spent my money elsewhere

All - I only mention the relative costs to show that this was a full on, fortnightly family shop, not a £15 trying it on one. And yes I look my age - the creases around my outer eyes and between my eyebrows, and those that run down from the nose to the corners of my mouth are unmistakeably those of a mid thirties harassed mother of two. Or at least they are to a cashier with an ounce of awareness. And no, I don't have a driving license and husband was off in the car and due to pick me up on completion.

purits · 09/04/2010 21:20

Well done sparkle. I hope that it included a lot of rapidly defrosting stuff.

Ellokitty · 09/04/2010 21:24

In a way I can almost handle the restriction of alcohol to adults, who may not be 18 because there is a danger they might be under 18, and the shop could be prosecuted.

However, I do have major issues with shops that refuse to serve alcohol to another adult (clearly over 18) because they have got a child with them.

Now, I understand that if I choose to then give that alcohol to a minor, I will be breaking the law, and risk getting a conviction for said crime. However, unless I have told TESCO that, it is none of their sodding business. The law is here "alcohol law[http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2003/ukpga_20030017_en_11]]" see page 11.
And nowhere in the law can I find a reference to Tesco/supermarkets must not serve another adult alcohol for fear that they might give it to a child. No, if I supply alcohol to a child, I am responsible - but the law says nothing about the shop who supplies me with that alcohol.

By all means, I can see / understand why Tesco can be strict in their implementation of the law, but I cannot see how on earth they can justify brining in a rule that has absolutely nothing to do with the law whatsoever!

Remotew · 09/04/2010 21:35

My comment earlier was tongue in cheek to say that make ID compulsory and deal with the uproar because this is reality for our DC's whether they make it official or not. It's crafty and putting the onous on shop assistants and it's WRONG.

Of course we could bring up non drinking, non smoking, non bar going young adults that only watch U certificate films, but they may want to buy a sharp object to fix something in the house so that blows that out of the window. Rant over.

Sukie1971 · 09/04/2010 21:43

I was annoyed when buying alcohol in Florida. They have a challenge 40 policy. I didnt get challenged. Im 38 grrr

ElleBing · 09/04/2010 21:54

Something similar happened to me in M&S this year...

I went in on Valentines' Day to buy a bottle of wine for DH and I. The assistant refused to serve me. I had no I.D as I am almost thirty. She made a big song and dance about caalling over her colleague and a security guard to tell me I did not look 25 (totally flattered by this point) I shrugged and said "That's fine. My husband is waiting for me outside and he's 36 with I.D. Keep the bottle and we'll come back." she went "Of course you will, lovey." The cheek1

Then obviously I went back in with DH and his drivers' licence and she felt a bit of a dickhead but I felt very smug about her not serving me.

Remotew · 09/04/2010 22:00

Sadly all those who are disgruntled or flattered are missing the point.

(Always wanted to say that).

Guess others are just not bothered about compulsory ID or civil liberties .

ScreaminEagle · 09/04/2010 22:08

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wickeddevil · 09/04/2010 22:13

She does have to ask.

I was once behind a lady in a supermarket queue who was asked for ID...and produced her Police warrant Card. It can happen to anyone.

purits · 09/04/2010 22:14

ilove: grow up, get a life and fuck off away from my till.
ScreaminEagle: FUCK OFF somewhere else

Well, ladies, which of these charming creatures are we going to nominate for Employee of the Month.

RedTartanLass · 09/04/2010 22:15

My ds1 use to work in a supermarket and he got "caught" selling alcohol to an underage girl who had 2 children with her. It was a very stressful time for my ds1 and our family as he didn't know if he would loose his job, be fined or even get a criminal record. Luckily the supermarket paid his fine and he didn't lose his job, although he got a written warning. This was about 2-3 years ago.

However afterwards he id everyone who looked underage, and when you're an 19 year old lad, anyone over 20 looks ancient, he can't tell a 20 year old from a 30 year old!!

I think the OP is being completely and utterly Unreasonable.

ScreaminEagle · 09/04/2010 22:33

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ElleBing · 09/04/2010 22:34

Cripes, not sure what all the virtual scrapping is about...

It can be frustrating to be refused alcohol but the poor people working the tills in these places aren't to blame. They're caught between a rock and a hard place: don't ask and risk a fine/losing their job or ask and get abuse from neanderthals who may as well start headbutting the counter because they can't get a drink.

I've been refused five times in twelve months. I'll try my luck ("aw come on, twenty-five year olds don't have these crows feet...") and if I get refused, i get refused. I'll go home and get my I.D. It's not like they're refusing me fucking oxygen fgs.

purits · 09/04/2010 22:54

"you try doing the 4-10pm shift on a friday or saturday on the till closest to the Beer Aisles and having roughly 40 customers per hour come through your checkout, 75% of which are buying alcohol, and at that time of night, are mostly between the ages of 18-40."

Erm, and your point is ...? I thought that 18-40 year olds were legally allowed to buy alcohol. Or have you forgotten that bit?

Remotew · 09/04/2010 22:56

Screaming I do sympathise with this burden that has been landed on you in your job. What do you suggest that shoppers do? Just accept that we should carry ID to purchase a bottle of wine.

Going back to the point then it is compulsory nowadays. It is still WRONG!

farmerjones · 09/04/2010 22:58

there is nothing wrong about carrying id. what is wrong, is assuming that you can swan around the place, without having to carry it.

the op was being unreasonable beyond belief. can we end this thread now??

purits · 09/04/2010 23:06

"there is nothing wrong about carrying id. what is wrong, is assuming that you can swan around the place, without having to carry it."

We have managed for centuries with not having need for ID. Why do you think that it is necessary now? Do you not worry about the erosion of your liberty?
Have you ever heard of this poem?

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