...to want DS's nursery to not use words like "ta" and "doggie"?

[Naetha]

I understand the benefit of getting babies/young toddlers into the habit of saying "ta" instead of thankyou as it's easier to say, but when they're 2+ and saying thankyou perfectly well, isn't this a bit infantile?

And why doggie?? Surely dog is easier and straight to the point.

Am I just a snob?

NNB I would have thought thats what we all want our DCs to be happy.

If you have a wide vocabulary and the ability to speak fluently and accurately, you will enhance your child's language development.

The reason the OP objects to "ta" is that it is an indicator of lower socio-economic status and a poor mastery of the English language.

That may or not be the case.

However, I for one would certainly prefer my child to spend her childhood in the company of people with a high-level mastery of her two languages. It is impossible to learn from those who do not themselves possess the skills you wish to acquire...

realised I've left myself open with that last comment. PLEASE don't bother I've got to do some childcare myself.

Of course we all want them to be happy. That wasn't my point

How silly.

I am a Speech and Language Therapist- with not one, not two, but THREE first class honours degrees (BA, BSc, MSc) yet this very morning, I found myself saying the unthinkable to my 3 month old: 'look at the doggie'.

I have betrayed my education. He will never learn to speak now.

How will I live with the shame?????

Ok dgs2 is now 12 months-he gives me something-I say 'ta'I give it back he says 'ta' its a primitive early version of 'Thank you'which he couldnt say just yet.It teaches him a vocal response to being given somethinh-I bet by the time he is 18months he,like dgs1,will say a version of Thankyou.He also says mama,baba,dada,tacta[tractor],cat and duck.All will be well.

I can't be arsed to answer your last post, Bonsoir

Time for me to bow out

pranma - why do you think your DC would not be able to say "Thank you" at 12 months?

My DD didn't say "Mummy" until 18 months but could say "Thank you" at 12 months.

Absolutely, pranma.

"I don't think my level of education guarantees I won't be rude or spiteful! "

Well that's very true.

Some of the labels you have applied to childcare workers on this thread demonstrate that "thickos", "dim girls" - that's just off the top of my head.

Childcare workers may not have degrees (poor whatever standard of higher education you would like to use to define 'well educated') but they do a difficult and essential job. They certainly don't deserve to be condescended to, patronised and sneered at.

Teach me to be snotty about spelling/typos.. I meant to say 'or', not 'poor' in the third paragraph.

Well said Pranma- most 12 month year old's couldn't manage thank you- I get sick of hearing mothers on here who like to show off, in a roun about way, about how advanced and intelligent their kids are.

sorry - the 'dim girls' was my copying the language used by another poster's daughter about the people in her class who were taking childcare as an option. Not my words, just using that to exemplify my point.

NNB sorry was agreeing with you. I worded it wrong.

GEToirfmyland posted this:

"DD came home with her GCSE options - one of which is Child Development. She said that all the dim girls were taking it as an option.

Had a go at her about being judgy (oh hark at me when I vent my spleen on AIBU often enough). But to be perfectly honest I probably wouldn;t be happy if she chose it as an option.

Am hypocrite."

that is what i was referring to.

"pranma - why do you think your DC would not be able to say "Thank you" at 12 months?"

presumably because she knows the child...? DS1 could say mummy at 12 months but not thank you. Every child is different.

o god janos, have you not read ANYTHING I have said - are you seriously thinking that I don't think they do an important and essential job????????????????????????

the whole point of everything that i have said on here is that their job is so important that it should be better paid and the people doing it should be better educated.

Perspective.

'ta' is regularly and widely used where I originally come from (North Yorkshire) - but it is most often heard from adults who use it as a friendly acknowledgement, often suffixed as follows:

'ta love'

or

'thanks love, ta'

Bonsoir,

it is unusual for a twelve month old to be able to accurately produce the phonetically complex 'thank you' (which includes a variety of later developing consonants) and not the infinitely more simple cvcv 'mummy'.

'ta' is a simple cv including an early developing consonant and would be expected to develop at an earlier stage than 'thank you'

Development differs from baby to baby and child to child, however.

I know he wouldnt be able to say 'Thankyou' bcause I know what he can say he is a normal 12 month old baby beginning to talk-actually I am rather proud of tacta for tractor.He cant say Grandma either but I am happy with gaga at this stage!

Ouch, Pixie!

"subnormal level of education" you maybe highly educated but you are rude obnoxious and patronising PSCMUM. Just out of curiosity who looks after your DC's whilst you are pursuing your highly educated career? One of these thickos as you refer to them no doubt.

PSCMUM

I hear you loud and clear in fact, people are just getting oversensitive as per usual.

You should see our local childminder gang, all I can say is you would NOT fuck with them, they are q scary.

Byt why guilt that you would not want to hang out after hours??? They want a job, you need childcare. end of,and so the wheel turns in our 2010 economy....