...to want DS's nursery to not use words like "ta" and "doggie"?

[Naetha]

I understand the benefit of getting babies/young toddlers into the habit of saying "ta" instead of thankyou as it's easier to say, but when they're 2+ and saying thankyou perfectly well, isn't this a bit infantile?

And why doggie?? Surely dog is easier and straight to the point.

Am I just a snob?

like i said above - it is a real dilemma for working parents - we have to work to survive, and we have to pay for childcare in order to work, but if it was much mroe expensive, it would be work not worthwhile.In saying that though, i really would be willing to pay much more for good quality care. And I totally agree, you don't always need 6 years at university a masters and a PHD to be a great childcarer - of course not, it is just in general, jobs which are low paid do not usually attract the best people. Or is that another load of rubbish I have been thinking was true and actually people leave univeristy, up to the eyeballs in debt, brilliant job prospects in a number of fields and they think 'I know, child care!'

and if you prefer your little darling to say 'tak yoo' then dont put them into childcare

No such thing as a neutral accent, Milly. you've got your children speaking RP

Sorry what is RP please Habbibu ?

As it happens the 10 year old has what I would consider the least accent but the younger one has picked up a hint which I am trying to iron out being honest.
It's not that the accent is dreadful but I don't want it if it can be avoided.

There are some nasty snobs on this thread.

I don't mind "Ta", I still use it myself occasionally with good friends.

"Doggie" is stupid though. I remember a woman asking DS when he was about 3 if he would like to pet her doggy woggy or whatever, he looked at me and said "Does she mean the dog?".

I use "hiya" as well, even in the written sense.

Am perfectly capable of using correct pronunciation and grammar for any given setting and am able to see that different settings require different "rules"

Surely "ta very muchly" is acceptable?

My DDs (teenagers) don't even say "thanks" now (they prefer 'thank you') because they say that it sounds like it's laced with sarcasm. They're the ones that said it, not me. And DD1 went to a nursery where they said 'ta' all the time, so it clearly hasn't scarred her for life.

"Horse, horse, don't you stop" doesn't have the same ring to it, does it? Or: "How much is that dog in the window?" "Cat, cat where have you been?"

What is your regional accent, Milly?

PCS - you're doing it again, equating university education with the 'best' people. They are plenty of highly university-educated idiots around you know!

If this is the extent of your issue with them think yourself very lucky.

YABU

PCSMum.

The fact that you type more or less exclusively in lower case, use Random CAPS and don't punctuate very well somewhat belies your claim to be super well educated, don't you think?

Speaking as a "thicko" that care for pre school aged children, I do day ta and doggie until a child can successfully repeat the words back to me.

The upshot is that I look after a 7 month old who will relinquish anything is isn't supposed to have if I simply say ta. He repeats it and hands me back the object. Isn't that better than the hysterics I often see from children in the park etc whose parents insist on speaking to them in full on sentences.

It would be nice if people found out the first thing about language development before they put on their judgy pants!

This is a good article if anyone is interested: Shore, Rima. (1997). Rethinking the brain: New insights into early development. New York: Families and Work Institute.

Not sure all that detailed study is necessary, tbh, though those things are covered, afaik, in NN training - were in my mum's day. DS won't be going to nursery, I think, so he's scuppered with just me and his dad, in that case!

'It is not the job that all the dim girls do as they cannot do anything else, like it is here'

WOW

I am, however, chortling at the sight of someone called yumimummi complaining about Ta etc.

Do you doggie nay-sayers insist your children use mum rather than mummy?

have i claimed to be super well educated?!
I am fairlyl well educated and when typing on mumsnet don't really give a stuff about typos as am not giving presentation to work or something, but just thrashing out issues with fellow mums. infer whatever you want from that janos.
sorry for equating university education with the best people - i don't mean that - the best person i have ever had to look after any of my children was someone who had very little education at all. I completely know that there will always be people not university educated who are wonderful at what they do, and people with degrees coming out of their ears who you wouldn't trust to boil an egg.

i just think it would be great if childcare was a more respected profession, and not, as one of the posters said earlier, the route the dim girls in her child's class are going down!

Actually, can I just amend my post to agree with GetOrfMoiLand's "I don't give a flying fuck, personally."?

What about 'bye-bye'

'night-night'

We could go on, couldn't we

iworshiplush - what??? it is TRUE! check out any connexions or other provision for kids leaving school with very few qualifications - the girls will be signed up for a childcare course before you can blink!

PCS, my sister works in child care and she has a degree in early years learning. She studied for 4 years to gain it so please do not say that people who work in nursaries are thickos, or badly educated.

I think childcare is a respected profession, shame that you dont

High pay doenst always = respected profession

"I just think it would be great if childcare was a more respected profession"

LOL yes, you sound like you really respect it!

I don't think anyone on this thread has said they don't see childcare as a respected job, have they?

o god. i surrender.
i haven't said they are ALL thickos. please someone help me! And I haven't said they are all badly educated either.

If I had typed 'everyone who works in childcare is as thick as two short planks, becuase they have not been to university, that is why they say 'ta' and i damn them all to hell for their uniform stupidity and inability to even tie shoelaces, this is guaranteed in every single case of every single childcarer ever in the history of mankind'
then that would warrant some of the responses on here! but I haven't!

Ta is a regional thing though.

In some areas everyone says ta, in some they don't.

therefore as to why it is "bad"

And PSCMUM your 1st post on this thread illustrates your views very clearly, I think (wrt the childcare issue and speech issue)