parenting pet peeves...

[bubbleymummy]

I know I'm going to get flamed for this but I just don't care - I have to vent somewhere after a weekend of smiling and nodding and keeping my mouth shut!

Here is a list of 'parenting' traits that I absolutely hate!

Giving babies sugar - dessert/pudding/biscuits/cake - they do not need it - they are not missing anything and they are the reason that your child is already overweight!

Shovelling food into tiny babies, scooping it up and shoving it back in when the baby's tongue pushes it out while discussing the baby's excema, constipation, tummy upsets etc

Giving toddlers fizzy drinks such as Coke and letting them run madly around before screaming at them and complaining about how badly behaved they are.

Giving children calpol because it's been a 'long day' or because they have a slight sniffle or even a hint of a temperature or just because 'they like the taste'!.

controlled crying / cry it out - I hate this at any stage but I DESPISE it in children under 6 months. I don't care if your child has been sleeping through since 5 weeks - it is bloody cruel!

and breathe....

Ok feel free to flame me or alternatively add your own pet peeves!

Disclaimer : I by no means consider myself to be a perfect parent and I could fill several threads with my own parenting flaws.

and my biggest parent pet peeve is.......

MUMS NOT GETTING ALONG CAUSE THEY LET THIER CHILDREN GET IN THE WAY..THEY THINK PROTECTING THIER CHILDREN AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER MUMS IS OKAY!!!!!!!!!

[WINK] [WINK] [WINK]

GOD DAM IT, WHY DOESNT MY EMOTICONS WORK! there!

Perhaps it would be easier if bubbley were offered choices:-

A. Sleep-deprived doctor.

B. No doctor

C. Fresh and alert doctor, whose child has CIO for three nights.

So - not yes or no, bubbley, but A, B or C.

Stayingdavid I did actually address your post in one of my last posts. Your post suggests that cc is the only way to prevent sleep deprivation and that is not the case. CIO is not better for the childs welfare ESP under 6 months.

ten reasons cio should not be used

reading this I now know why I am so deluded and emotional all the time: my mum and nan used to stick us in the bathroom for ages to cry our selves to sleep.

Then why use them as an example of the damage that cosleeping can do?

Seriously stayingdavid give over. You're really boring me now with these stupid hypothetical questions that you won't accept answers to unless they fall into some specific category. Do you win a point if I say I would want a doctor capable of doing his job to treat my son?I don't think so. All I have been saying is that there are alternatives to cc/CIO and it shouldn't be used under 6 months. your friends child was underage and they used a cruel method to sleeptrain. You will not change my mind on that no matter how you ask the question because- I repeat ad infinitum THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES. I really wonder how long they tried them for before opting for the easy cruel option.

chellesgirl that's awful. ThanK you for the link.

minxofmancunia Fri 26-Feb-10 08:46:23

"We get a lot of referrals for sleep difficulties for over 5s (work in CAMHS) and guess what, they nearly all without exception co-slept!"

And how do you know that it's the co-sleeping that causes the sleep problems rather than the sleep problems causing the co-sleeping? I had no intention of co-sleeping but have found myself doing so as both my children have sleep problems (fopr health reasons). So it would be a bit odd to say that the co-sleeping was causing the sleep problems in my case. A bit like saying: 'I saw a child in a wheelchair this morning. She can't walk. Must be the wheelchair that causes it. When you come to think of it, most children that use wheelchairs have walking problems.'

CIO should NEVER be used as "Sleep training". CIO is just another way of saying 'shut baby in a room and leave it crying hysterically until he/she falls asleep'

CC (Although never been in a position to need it myself) can be and is an acceptable form of Sleep Training, if done correctly, AFTER 6 months AFTER all other methods have been tried and failed.

Of course there are far nicer way's to get a child sleeping through the night but some children don't respond to that and that is when CC may work!

I would rather use CC, as a last resort, than have a family going slowly insane and a baby that is suffering mentally and physically through lack of sleep.

"Note: Please note that not all of these sources look specifically at crying it out. Some of them look at the risks of excessive crying in general. It is my opinion that excessive crying is excessive crying, whether it happens at night or not "

Well, it's not my view

Exactly cory.

Sorry, post above was referring to CC (which I used). In the article linked, the eauthor does not distinguish between CIO and CC

cc is acceptable yes and I believe that at a certain age it is very beneficial. they have now decided to call it controlled comforting and not controlled crying as it must have been giving it a bad name.

"You need to believe in the reasons that you are doing things the way that you do them with your children. If you feel confident that the ?lack of evidence? that CIO is harmful means that it is harmless, that is your choice. And I hope that you are right. But I?m not taking the chance".

Can't say fairer than that.

In the circumstances I used CC, for that child, at that time, and weighing up the possible harm of CC against the actual harm of 6 months disrupted sleep and a depressed, sleep deprived mother, It was my choice.

Also, just to re-iterate, the author of that article seems to be saying that CIO and CC are the same. They aren't.

Lequeen. Your friends were using CIO not cc unless you're all of a sudden changing your story AND the baby was under 6 months.

I never used CC and did not have months/years of no quality sleep. A few nights back to back of being in and out of DD's room all night yes, but I would rather that than hear her cry. As I said she sleeps wonderfully now and loves going to bed.

Why do you think that you can't get s good night of sleep without using sleeptraining? Do you seriously believe that unless you leave a child to cry they will never learn to fall asleep by themselves? You're a bit silly if you do....

Thanks gibbon. That's our experience too.

Except ds was in our room so no back and forthing! when he went into his own room he was sleeping fine

minxofmancunia - have just re-read this thread to make sure I haven't missed anything .

I MAY have something to help you with your 3.5 year old.

My 6 year old (for no reason we could fathom), started waking in the night recently. I think he'd been woken by noise, or by needing the loo, but then was unable to get back to sleep again, and was getting upset and calling out. This was happening at between 12 and 1 every night.

He was easy to settle, but then I couldn't get back to sleep myself. It went on for around 2 weeks.

I always check on him before I go to bed, and one night I accidently woke him up (this was around 10.30). That night he didn't wake in the middle of the night.

I think this had re-booted his sleep pattern. Since then I go in and rouse him slightly by kissing him and saying goodnight (enough so he murmurs or rolls over). The ONLY time he has woken up since then is the one night I forgot to go into him ...

Maybe worth a try ?

Sorry for hijack - and length of post