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to think that the choking risk is just a myth?

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BattyKoda · 22/02/2010 21:39

As in, "it's dangerous to put your baby/toddler to bed with a bottle/beaker as they might choke". Is it more dangerous than say a dummy? I have found one story on the web of a baby choking on a dummy, but can't find anything about the risk of choking on fluid.

(I have asked this on another thread but have had no response so I have put on my hard hat and am braving it here, please go easy on me )

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BattyKoda · 23/02/2010 15:57

Good for you. Perhaps examine your own life.

I've had the answers I've needed so I've leave you lot to continue discussing my cat....if thats what floats your boat

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Spoof · 23/02/2010 15:58

Yeah, but, we've edjacated her now, innit. So alls well.

I say "we've"....

I just posted flippantly.

Rhubarb · 23/02/2010 15:59

I think we've explained why you've been met with such antagonism.

Your OP is not clear - you admit this.
It is generally considered bad form to start a second thread about something as people will suspect your reasons for doing so. Wouldn't it have been better to resurrect that thread as posters would have a better knowledge of your situation.

You say you were merely curious but then state that you were intending to leave your tot with milk - so either this thread was to give you advice or to provide you with statistics, which?

Your posts are not clear on your motives for this thread, people have got the wrong end of the stick as you can clearly see. You seem to make up your mind and then dismiss opinions to the contrary.

You got off on a bad foot on this thread. In future I would advise that you are clear as to your intentions and what you wish to gain from a thread - also steer clear of AIBU threads unless you are up for debating.

FioFio · 23/02/2010 16:01

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Morloth · 23/02/2010 16:02

Think we even have special judging knickers for AIBU, we could certainly use a cat's bum smiley.

I am incredibly smug about my own life, it is truly excellent being me, no need to examine - can't think of a single thing I would change.

Well I tried to start nice, but it was just too easy.

LittleMrsHappy · 23/02/2010 16:02

Soup dragon, for goodness sake give it up already, she came on asking for advice, she was not in any way flippant about any of the advice given, she came on asking for advice and yet your still going on like a dog with a bone!

She did not asked to be judged for her cat for silly sake!, she asked advice based on what her friend suggested to her, and she has more then once said she now knows the dangerous of feeding her child at night!

Give it up already, its very childish indeed

Morloth · 23/02/2010 16:03

Could be tricky FioFio you probably need special equipment.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 23/02/2010 16:06

fio

FioFio · 23/02/2010 16:06

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Spoof · 23/02/2010 16:07

Oh but fio, being told to fuck yourself is a right of passage on here.

And anyway, there are worse things you could do on a Tuesday afternoon.

BattyKoda · 23/02/2010 16:08

When did I say I was merely curious?

I haven't not dismissed opionions, I thought we were having a debate?

My intentions were to see if anyone could offer me any substational evidence that it is a dangerous, high risk thing to do to leave a toddler with a drink unsupervised. This hasn't changed throughout.

I wanted to gain more knowledge on the subject to allow me to make an informed decision on whether or not I would do it.

I am up for debating, but not up for being called an idiot, and having the piss taken out of me, thats not a debate, is it?

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SoupDragon · 23/02/2010 16:10

Are you my boss or my mother, LittleMrsHappy ? No? Then you have no right to tell me to do anything.

The fact that the OPs plan is seriously flawed does have bearing on the reason she started the thread.

And no one is judging her for the fucking cat.

SoupDragon · 23/02/2010 16:11

It's not simply about the risks, its about assessing whether the benefits are worth those risks.

FioFio · 23/02/2010 16:12

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SoupDragon · 23/02/2010 16:12

gah"

and unless you've, for example, gone through the "pain" of weaning a child off having milk in the night, leaving a beaker of water really isn't going to work.

BattyKoda · 23/02/2010 16:13

Mabye I was naive in posting this on AIBU. The other thread dried up and I knew I would get responses on here, says alot about you all really, you would rather bitch and judge than help and advise. Oh well, fingers burnt, lesson learnt.

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SoupDragon · 23/02/2010 16:15

I suspect you may be better off with Netmums if you think this is bitchy and judgemental.

LittleMrsHappy · 23/02/2010 16:15

Did I say I was your mother! WELL ERM NO!

All this is pathetic! its childish and mundane and also relentless as its getting nowhere!

The OP might not have made it clear, but you would have to be a idiot to not know what she was meaning by it!

I thought I was on a adult website where discussions where debated appropriately and also in a adult manner! not to judge someone on their parenting skills.

Rhubarb · 23/02/2010 16:16

I think you received a lot of advice actually and to say otherwise is being downright rude to those who have given you their time.

I gave you the proof you were after, it didn't take much googling. Hope that ends the matter - it is dangerous.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 23/02/2010 16:17

ooooh more handbags

Morloth · 23/02/2010 16:18

That was actually very interesting Rhubarb is it part of the anti-SIDS advice to not give a bottle at night?

Haven't heard much SIDS stuff lately are there still info campaigns going on?

LittleMrsHappy · 23/02/2010 16:23

Marloth, I as at one of my toddler groups today and we had a speaker in from one of the SIDS association groups, and I found it very interesting.

In May, apparently SIDS are doing a hard hitting TV advertisement about ALL the dangerous of SIDS, apparently its hard hitting and a very emotive watch, and can only be shown after the watershed.

I think it will be quite interesting for the likes off the OP.

thesecondcoming · 23/02/2010 16:25

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BattyKoda · 23/02/2010 16:26

Did they mentioned anything about the dangers of children being left with a drink at night littlemisshappy?

I have expressed thanks to those that have helped Rhubarb, including yourself. I have also said I'm glad I have highlighted it if it is a real danger.

The thing I don't get, if it is, why aren't we told? As in...we are told constantly about the dangers of leaving a children unattended whilst eating, or in the bath, but nothing about drinking unsupervised?

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Rhubarb · 23/02/2010 16:28

I don't know what the SIDS advice is on drinking milk in bed. But there would appear to be a few deaths cause by breathing in milk whilst asleep. Not all deaths make the news, they just turn up in the autopsy report. One such report found clotted milk in the airways, suggesting that the child vomited some milk but was unable to clear it from their airways.

Tests were also done with mice, milk was squirted up their noses whilst their mouths were shut and they were asleep. None of the mice awoke, suggesting that neither would a sleeping child.

Whilst aspiring milk may not cause a fatality straight away, it is also being linked to respiratory diseases in children.

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