to think that the choking risk is just a myth?

[BattyKoda]

As in, "it's dangerous to put your baby/toddler to bed with a bottle/beaker as they might choke". Is it more dangerous than say a dummy? I have found one story on the web of a baby choking on a dummy, but can't find anything about the risk of choking on fluid.

(I have asked this on another thread but have had no response so I have put on my hard hat and am braving it here, please go easy on me )

As explained before rubyslippers, the other thread dried up. And I have taken the advice on board, which is why I have changed my opinion. I have said that I was against the idea when I posted, haven't I?

I don't do troll accusations. I enjoy it when people ask stupid questions, get the answers they deserve and then go crazy.

I am bored out of my mind at the moment. You are entertainment.

FioFio's comment was neither outrageous nor disgusting, just par for the course on AIBU. The risk here is a dead baby (it is however a very small risk). No point getting upset at someone pointing out the obvious.

Glad you think dead babies are something to joke about FioFio, you've obviously been fortunate not to have experienced such horror and devastation then.

What a boring life Morloth

so, are you going to leave your child with a drink of water in their bed?

i thikn my children are of a different breed to others, they never want a drink in the night, but if they did, i would far rather make Dh get up and get a drink from the bathroom and give it to them, and then tuck them back in bed

the point fio was making, albeit in a dramatic way, but nevertheless a true point - your toddler , or anyones's toddler could (small risk ) but could aspirate/choke/inahle vomiot when drinking unsupervised at night and die

that could be the end result , a dead child

the reason people are getting cross nad infuriated is because a dead child is a possible consequence, not a definite one, but a possible one

and not a risk worth taking , IMO

but you can take that risk, tis up to you

don't start two threads on a contentious topic and then get pissed off people get cranky with you

Tell me about it, my pelvis is trying to leave via both sides. Right now my days are spent doing the school run and then resting in bed in between.

So are we now going to hear about how you have experienced such devastation and how we are really mean to question your judgement etc? Cause that is your obvious next step here.

Then someone will be along to tell us how you have been given such a hard time, blah blah blah.

Watches with interest...

Batty - I usually steer well clear of arguments like this. But to be fair, even though I'm kind of on your side (in that we do the same with water etc) - if you accept that there is a risk, then you need to be strong enough to talk about the consequences of that risk - ie a dead child. If you can't face even talking about that potential outcome, then you should not take the risk (however small).

Its the difference between considering the risk carefully and deciding to take it, and just ignoring it (which is irresponsible).

I'm going to talk to DP about it tonight.

When he asks if there is a choking risk I will say - No, there is a very slight risk of aspiration but as far as I can see there have been no reported incidents of this happening in similar circumstances. However wehn he is older, he will not be permitted to dink milkshake if he is stoned

Not sure that the technical difference between choking and aspiration is really relevant.

But nicely stepped back from the brink there...

Well then it has also been proven in this thread that there is also a risk of aspiration when breastfeeding....so do you consider a dead baby every time you feed? Or every time you step on a plane, go swimming, cross the road??

yes but when you are breastfeeding you are physically with the child so if they start to choke you can act quickly

you can't iwth a child left on their own with a beaker

Risk/reward ratios again.

You think the small risk of an aspirating baby is worth the reward of an uninterrupted night.

Other people disagree.

Surely the question you asked is whether it was dangerous or not, basically - so whether it is by choking or aspiration doesn't really matter? Nor does it matter whether these things can happen in other situations, as those situations are not the ones you are asking about?

Not in every case Ruby

Accepted lukewarmcupoftea. But I reserve my right to be offended when somebody tells me I would prefer a dead baby.

Fair enough. 'prefer' the wrong word clearly (and would upset me too), but 'take a considered but very small risk of possibly having a dead baby' probably didn't pack the same punch for the argument!

Risk: Miniscule and virtually unheard of risk of an aspirating toddler

Reward: More settled toddler, undisturbed older brother, undisturbed 10 hour day working DP, well rested mum. Also as it will be with water now, weaning him off havung milk in the night, better teeth

that is so sad

but it actually undermines your point, because even a child with their parent can tragically choke, sorry, aspirate and unfortunatley die

nevermind a child drinking, alone and unsupervised

the risk is potentially a dead baby. we take risks every day, simply crossing the road we take a risk, but we have to leave the house , we have to cross the roads

we don't have to let our babies/toddlers self feed bottles/beakers of milk / water and risk the aspiration/choking/.vomiting/ stomach bugs/infectiosn taht could result

quite ,ruby

So if you are so sure you are right about this why are you so desperate for everyone else to agree with you?

It is a personal decision, doesn't matter how loud you yell or how offended you get you can't make the risk disappear nor make other people say that they agree it is a worthwhile one.

I'm not asking for everyone to agree. However, I do feel the need to defend myself against accusations that I would prefer a dead baby.
I accept the risk, and have a far greater understanding of it thanks to this thread so I am glad I started it. It has certainly confimred my feeling that milk would be a bad idea but I think I will try a beaker of water and see how we go, my DS1 (4yo) has a beaker of water next to his bed also, as do I and my DP so it probably would have only been a matter of time before I'd let DS2 do the same.
I am actaully quite interested to hear any response to the question lukewarmcupoftea asked, at what age would you let a child have a drink unsupervised?

the stage of the development of the child would predicate the answer

My 4 year old might not be able to competently handle a drink at night whilst woozy/sleepy whereas someone else's 3.5 year would be

oh, and Op this is interesting