to want to slap the girl on 'one born every minute'?

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in the title really, she is really making a meal of it!!

If Joy ever has another baby,(which I doubt) she will bring her own pillows and food supplies, like I did with DS2.

the recpetionist is a VILE COW isnt she
and lady, strange hair and makeup doesnt hide it.

This is a good show for me. I have heard C&W are a bit slack on the food front. I don't need drugs for labour but I do require snacks. Will go shopping today and fill my bag (boots?).

Thats the reason I had 2 homebirths after a hospital birth!

'Oh, yes, it's so easy to be capable when you're only functionally literate (DH) and mentally ill (me).

They are real people who chose to go on TV and air their laundry.'

They chose to go on TV - on a TV show that is clearly going to be a big help to mums-to-be who don't know what to expect. How selfish of them!

I didn't suggest it was easy for you to be capable, I only said this couple might not be as capable as you. But when you're looking at people, as opposed to ideal situations, why not be a bit less quick judge? How would you feel if someone came along and said, 'well, look at them - he can barely read and she's mentally ill, they surely shouldn't be having children?'

The snacks? I had half planned a homebirth but due to admin errors (was told to transfer hospitals due to postcode, but turns out should have stayed at the original) am now going to wander in. Don't mind, homebirth was more convenience than ideology. Will stay at home till last minute in any case and take snacks!

Come prepared, Morloth!

I bought a hold all of supplies and a bike lock in case I had too much to fit into the locker, I could secure my extra belongings to the bed.

Even my travel kettle, tea, UHT milk, sugar.

Paracetamol and ibuprofen for afterbirth pains (got sick of ringing for pain relief and no one showing up).

Everything but the kitchen sink.

Learned the hard way after having DD1 and spending 5 days in hospital afterwards.

The Nespresso machine would be overkill you think?

My biggest concern at the moment is that a book I am waiting for is released so that I have something to do for the time afterwards that I am stuck there.

'But when you're looking at people, as opposed to ideal situations, why not be a bit less quick judge? How would you feel if someone came along and said, 'well, look at them - he can barely read and she's mentally ill, they surely shouldn't be having children?'

It's a Channel 4 show, not a NHS DVD to be shown in antenatal class. They weren't doing this as a public service announcement.

I also couldn't care less what random strangers think of me, LittleRed. Really couldn't.

Wouldn't bother me a lick what they think.

And really, if it does bother someone, it's probably not a good idea to go on a Channel 4 TV show.

I was surprised she didnt have food with her if she might need it. I took food and I'm not diabetic. Rather than wait an hour I would have sent dh to the shop

He kept offering her fruit.

expat, I think you'll find most people care to some degree about what others think. It's obviously a mixed blessing for you to be so untouched by it all, but I'm utterly bewildered by the lack of a bit of compassion - it's just very strange.

And then he went to Burger King and didn't bring her back anything!

How long had Joy been there? Was it days?

Did he go to Burger King?? How Rude!

What is it about BK anyway? When I was in labour, useless XP suddenly decided it would be a good time to take me to BK - the nearest one was 20 miles away and I had craved it all through pregnancy. I was stuck in the carpark with just my TENS machine crying because I was scared and we didn't even eat the food until we got home so I don't know why he didn't just go without me

i took in frozen cheese sarnies for dh

goot thing too on a satruday night

I had my own room with DD1 and DD2.

DH brought me chicken jalfrezi, veggie samosas and garlic naan from my fav Balti house.

i had dire acid reflux with both girls and couldn't wait to eat curries again!

All hospitals are crap at getting good food to those who need it, the sick, labouring mothers, new mothers etc the best bet is to pack a picnic as if you're staying for a month and then you will get fed, or go private or stay at home.
If worse comes to the worse stop at the garage on the way to hospital and get energy drinks and drink them during labour, if you start to loose all your energy it's a slippery slope.

Op, YABU and horrible. If I see a young woman screaming in pain I tend to believe that she is actually in pain. She was perfectly pleasant and reasonable after she'd had the drugs.

As for the poster who said 'The Chinese woman shouldn't moan about our NHS' wtf? Presumably the 'Chinese woman' pays her taxes here and it is her NHS as much as anybody else's - and if we can moan about it all day long then so can she, regardless of her ethnic background. I'd be moaning too if I was given the shite treatment she was.

This show is great, it tells you exactly what to expect in the NHS, ie to shout your head off to get any attention at all, and to bring all your own supplies including food.

I thought both mothers were fascinating last night, but it's a shame they wasted a whole 'birth story' on Joy sitting there with no food. I'd rather they had edited that and shown us her actual birth story!

And I particularly enjoyed Stephen Fry's performance as a spinster midwife. Excellent and very true.

"Christ on a bike, so this is what they mean by the Mumsnet Harpies. OP, you are being f*cking unreasonable.

How do you know she wasn't having a back to back labour and/or a really complex presentation that would cause agonising contractions from the start? It would explain the baby's decels and the crash caesarian."

Thank you Gizmo, stand up that woman and take a bow. The voice of reason.

That's all that needs to be said on this thread.

I had a "back to back" labour and I can assure you it was excrutiatingly painful from the off.

It started at 1am and I stuck it out at home until 3pm, by which time I was in so much pain that I thought without question that I'd be told that I was either ready to start pushing, or really close to it. No. Wrong. I was told I was 1cm dilated and in the latent phase of labour FFS!!!

9 excrutiating hours later, after being refused an epidural (when I'd managed to struggle to 3cm dilated) on the grounds that they had all their staff committed to monitoring other women with epidurals, I had an emergency c-section as the baby was in such distress and the heart rate was dipping dramatically due to the stress of labour.

Thank god for that. It was such an enourmous relief. As it was my first baby it was an excruitiatingly painful and terrifying time during which I felt totally out of all control of both my body and what was going on around me. I felt very alone too (despite having mother and husband with me like the girl in the programme), and felt like no one was able to help me. I also remember wailing "please, somebody help me", just like she did. It was not a pleasant experience and watching her brough back nasty memories of almost 10 years ago for me too.

So, please don't presume to judge anyone unless you have walked a mile in their shoes as they say.

I have been right where that girl was and know exactly how she felt.

Brilliant MorrisZapp, knew she was a familiar 'character' to me but couldn't quite work out who she reminded me of.

Clearly there was something going wrong with Sam's labour though, the baby's heartbeat was really slow - she wasn't the only one distressed.

It's mad - I can't think of any other circumstance when you could turn up at a hospital screaming in pain only to be told that in fact you shouldn't be in pain, and that your symptoms haven't started yet.

If my leg or my head hurt so much that I was screaming then I'd expect immediate attention and drugs.

I wouldn't expect a lecture or to be told to cope with it.

God I could so relate to Sam! My first labour I was induced and as soon as the first contraction started I threw up and was in agony! In agony exactly as she was.

My baby was back to back, it went on for hours, his heart beat was also decelerating and he was delivered by ventouse, it was horrific and thankfully I managed to get an epidural like she did.

I was also induced with my next 2 and the pain was nowhere near as intense.

Until you have been there you can't judge. I certainly wouldn't call it making a meal of it, she must have been terrified about having the C Section under circumstances like that.

Lets face it nobody gets a medal for being brave during labour!

MorrisZapp

I agree! thanks for posting what you did