family changing rooms and nakedness......

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i took dd and ds swimming the other day and spotted a family changing room which was good because ds is too young to go himself and i wouldnt want him to. Anyway obviously there were other families mummys and daddys etc in there and showers and changing cubicles etc. well after swimming i jumped into the showers with the kids and focusing on my business when i turned around and noticed the women next to me was innocently showering but completely naked. Anyway i came out of the shower to get my bits on the bench and the womens husband was also completely naked he's the oblivious to anyone else giving hiself a good old towel rub as if he were in his own bathroom at home.

Well i didnt know where to look or what to make of it tbh.Part of me thought well good on them for not being shy about their bodies but then i felt uncomfortable with another mans bits on show right next to me. Dd was mortified and so i quickly hushed them into the changing cubicles. I know its is hard to matain your modesty when getting changed but surely it can't be right to have it on display in a family area? what do you think?

Was there really such a thread Bronze? I missed that one. I'm as guilty as sin then because I have loads of photos of ds playing the park when he was a toddler.

are there no doors on the changing rooms? we have a brand new swimming pool and they all have closing doors and locks ds says the gym changing room has no cubicles and he hates it hes 18

I wouldn't have a problem with it TBH. People are so hung up on nekkidness. The man in the OP's post was with his family -i.e his kids. The 'shocked' attitudes are symptomatic of the warped 'all men are paedo's' attitude that is becoming prevalent. And now we have leering 10 year old boys to add into the moral panic mix.

Wouldn't be a problem for me at all, it's a body. It's good for kids to learn to be unashamed of bodies and nakedness and you were there to supervise so clearly nothing inappropriate happened. I'm suprised how many people see nakedness as immediatley on a sexual level.

I thought the park thread was saying the person who reported the man for taking photos of his own child was unreasonable.

I wouldn't have a problem with it but wouldn't let DH do it IYSWIM? I would assume anyone nekkid in a mixed changing room was German or Dutch or whathaveyou.

Do the people who think that 9-10year old boys are having inappropriate thoughts about and leering at adult women they see in the changing room also believe that 9-10year old girls are having the same ones about men? Or are we back to "all men are predators"?

yikes no! sorry, i didnt mean that at all.

was just wanting to point out that young boys (and girls of course) CAN be sexually inappropriate and that it is something that you would notice as an adult simply because it isnt normal (rather than say a 10 year old having a look because he knows its 'rude' or whatever). there is a big difference of course.

I don't necessarily think that the responses are down to paedo paranoia. I wouldn't be the slightest bit bothered if ds saw 100 naked men or women but I'm not altogether comfortable with a naked mans bits being paraded when I'm not expecting it. I remember years ago dh had a friend stay over and he came down to breakfast wearing the tightest pair of pants you could imagine, I thought that it was inappropriate, they were so tight he may as well have came down naked. My niece (same age as me) would also wander around in her underwear when she came to stay and I told her not to as I didn't feel it was appropriate for her to show off her bits in front of dh.

I do think the couple in question were showing off, not in a sexual way but in a "hey look at us we don't have any hang ups and we are pretty fit too".

"I do think the couple in question were showing off, not in a sexual way but in a "hey look at us we don't have any hang ups and we are pretty fit too". "

If I were pretty fit I'd be showing off big time

I'd have been tempted to say to him "You might need some Anusol on those mate - oh sorry, it's your cock! I do beg your pardon, I thought one of your piles had dropped!"

I think it has bugger all to do with paedo paranoia and everything to do with taking other people's feelings into consideration.

I don't have a problem with nudity - I do have a problem with people imposing their nudity on others, however.

I also feel that there's a world of difference between an inadvertant flash of arse and full frontal dong swinging, which is what the man in the OP was apparently doing.

It would have shocked me too OP, not because being naked is a shocking thing but more because full frontal nudity in front of strangers, even in a swimming pool changing area, is not what we're used to in this country, it's not really 'the done thing'.

My DD would have found it hilarious and would have stood there, mouth agape, staring and giggling her head off.

oh these kind of threads make me laugh, in a despairing kind of way.

we go swimming as a family, anduse the family changing room. dds are 5 and 3, and we will be using the family changing room for the forseeable future (and beyond I expect!) as dd1 is ASD, and needs close supervision (not to mention help with getting dressed)

already i cannot fit into a cubicle easily with dd1. she is tall for her age, but not that big, and trying to dress a child who isn't co-operating, the size of dd1, in a cubicle without serious injury to one of us just isn't happening.

so we get changed out in the communal area.

and at some point I will (obv) have to take off my swimming costume and put on my clothes.

this will involve nakedness. same goes for dh.

and so be it, tbh.

I honestly can't believe that there are people saying "oh, well, it isn't nice when you aren't expectign it"

you are at a swimming pool.

opeople willbe changing. what's not to expect?

I'm with MrsT - get real, people.

Then Madamecasta they should head for cubicles, why should Ibe be subjected to people washing and drying their willies and fanjos in public. I have no issues about nakedness, my dd sees me and my dh in the buff but people that we dont know. Kids learn from example at home if we dont allow them to see us naked or have hangups about our bodies than they can copy too.

We have a brand new swimming pool and they have shower cubicles that are very spacious and big enough cubicles to have a family in to allow privacy towards them and other people.

Or if its not possible to change in a cubicle as there are too many children, whey not get one of those poncho towels to hide modesty whilst changing, not in ya face tits, bum, fanjo and willies flying everywhere

Thread is getting ridiculous now!

The man was not swinging his cock into peoples faces saying "Gerra load of this!" He was drying himself. Not even drying his cock, just himself.

As silverfrog said, it's a swimming pool, you are going to see a bit of nakedness in a swimming pool. Big deal.

Why should other people be made to feel uncomfortable about your hangups over bodies? If silverfrog was getting changed with her dh in the swimming pool would you report and tut at her before rushing home to start a Mumsnet thread about it?

well, quite rhubarb.

I get changed, and get my dds changed. as does dh if he is on "dd1 duty".

we do not conga around the changing area shrieking "wha-hey! look everyone! we're naked!" with bits wobbling all over the place...

but by it's very nature, changing after swimming involves nudity.

I am honeslty quite bemused by everyone's horror at the fact that people take their clothes off to go swimming...

one potato two potato three potato four.

I used to go to an indoor pool (YMCA in the US) where there were communal showers in each of the two available changing and shower rooms, mens and womens. I took my DCs to swimming classes there when they were little, over many years. If a dad took his DC swimming, he would take his child, girl or boy, into the men's changing room afterwards, until age 7, when children were required to use the gender-appropriate showers and changing rooms. (Although there was one dad who tried to pawn off his 4 year old on some of the mothers and have her taken through the women's changing rooms )

So basically, it was women and girls, and boys up to age 7, who used the women's showers (everyone naked) and the changing rooms (no cubicles, just benches and lockers), and dads and and sons, or daughters up to age 7 who used the men's showers and changing facilities (again no cubicles or private showers).

I think if they had allowed men and women in together in the same showers and changing rooms there would have been very few takers for the classes. The 'family shower and changing' arrangement seems very, very odd to me, and off-putting for a lot of people, I suspect, for religious as well as cultural reasons. I don't remember any clamour for family shower or changing facilities in this particular location, whereas there were family 'restrooms' with baby-changing stations, etc.

I did kind of have an image of him swinging his cock, I have to admit!

I only go to public pools so I can swing my breastulences at people and check out their dingle dangles.

I don't mind sneakily eyeing up willies through swimming trunks, but they don't look so good naked

Next time I go I'm going to streak!

I like to swim along underwater and "accidentally" swim into a man's groin so I can cop a quick feel in all the confusion. Especially if he's wearing speedos.