To think that people on the dole could be out shovelling snow for their dosh?

[mmrred]

Just had a call to say my Gran has fallen and broken both her wrists on the untreated pavements...paths round us are a nightmare, too...so am having a facist moment and thinking people being kept by the government could 'pay some back' by clearing footpaths...

I love this. I am on a hill in Devon and all our neighbours and my husband take it in turns to grit the roads and pavements.
Bring out the dole bums!

You sound lovely! I am currently on benefits for the first time ever (until next week). I am not clearly your farking snow. Claiming benefits is a fantastic thing to be entitled to, but I have paid more than my fair share into the proverbial "pot" to be entitled to take some out. SO I shall be sitting in p.js with hot choccie watching dvds with dd, not clearing snow!

Sorry about your nan btw, tis awful when old people slip over.

Don't think people on the dole need to 'pay back' anything, but criminals do, and they have been shovelling snow where I live, as part of their community service orders.

The thing is, there's an awful lot of snow.

It's a shame that not every street etc has been shovelled or gritted but homeowners and business owners can do their bit too.

mmred - just the people of benefits? Surely you can resist mentioning all the "nasty mean job stealing country wrecking immigrants" too?

yy put them in chains and make them break stones too.

Pay back time.

i think anyone on the dole as you charmingly put it,would clear 3 or 4 shovelfulls. job done and their paltry amount of money would be 'earned'.....no more than 4 shovelfulls mind,or they should be paid more...

MorrisZapp - Yes I agree, criminals can do it for community service, that is fair, they do indeed have a debt to repay to society.

Well lets just hope that you never find yourself in a situation where you aren't working and need to rely on benefits. It is easy to throw around generalisations, but the reality of the situation is often very different. Not everybody on benefits conforms to the stereotype. There are people who abuse the system, but a lot of people are saved by it - which is what it's intended for. The snobbery people hold about benefits is very narrow minded.

YABU - I am sorry about your Gran by why does she need to go out on icy pavements? Surely her family are responsible for making sure she doesn't need to go out in this weather?

Jobseekers Allowance (I assume this is what you mean by the dole) is contributory - ie it is paid for by people when they are in work for when they are not in work. Why the should they go out and clear snow of pavements as well?

We pay Council Tax and it is up to councils to clear roads/pavements etc. Get mad at them rather than the unemployed!

Hando you are being far too generous to the- spiteful cow

I had to delete what I really wanted to put. I did wonder what the biscuit was for but now I find it is indeed most useful.

Stepping away now.

a few people round here have been trying to shovel the snow.......problem is it's been snowing early evening, and not a lot of it, and by the time anyone is up in the morning to try and shovel it away it's been compacted and frozen solid.

to the OP though

Okay so where do their kids go then?got childcare sorted for X million have you?

Definedoleaswellplease.Are we talikng about LT IS claimants or anyone who gets a handout here? becuase that difference matters you know

I am moving if the elderly neighbours thing comes in,am happy to doours but only under 60's in bloody road! I'd need a nanny just to cope!

Yes of course. You are right.
I hope you never find yourself in need dear.
Pahhhh!

Lets get the homeless to do it eh? then they would be tired out and sleep well on the streets at night!

FFS,

My grandad tells me endless stories of blah blah this and blah blah that...

...WWII,manning air-raid shelters, travelling length and breadth of the country for some electrical pioneering co.....

fecking snow, GET A GRIP!!!!!

op are you my brother
he talks shit too

well yes indeed peachy - I Was about to ask what I should do with my kids while I'm out shovelling snow.........if I stood them on the pavement next to me there's a rather great risk they'd end up at the bottom of the hill even if they didn't move under their own steam (I was standing still outside my gate the other day and suddenly realised I was moving backwards down the street )

Stewie, I heard this today, but also, apparently, that would mean that you would be responsible for the pavement outside your house, ie.if you hadn't completely cleared it and someone fell, you might be sued, also if you have cleared it, but it ices over again and someone falls, you could be sued, and i think the most important one is, what about all the old and disabled people who can't clear (and don't have friendly neighbours to do it for them) their pathways. I, personally am with the community service and petty criminals out there working a bit, so we can all get to work and our kids can get to school.

When I lived in Germany, everyone was responsible for clearing their path and the bit of pavement in front of their own driveway and - do you know what? THEY BLOODY DID IT. They got up at 6am to shovel the snow, sometimes when it was still snowing.

So I had my German housemates to thank for the fact that what would have been a nice, quite safe, crunchy, snow-covered path was a bloody glass-smooth deathtrap ice-rink by the time I went to work in the morning.

Some thought required.

why was your nan out?
i sat in traffic for an hour yesterday to make sure my elderly aunt had bread milk and what ever else she needed.

thank god, someone finally speaks sense

can we also test experimental drugs on them?