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WasIBU to change my DS's nappy in seat on plane...

180 replies

larks35 · 07/01/2010 23:40

rather than the 2 inches allowed in aeroplane loos.
Okay first thread but, I recently went to Cyprus with DP, DS and DP's family (oh, it seems like light years ago). On the way out I checked out the loo on the plane and decided not to change DS's nappy there as there is no room. He's nearly 1yo and honestly there is no space for it. Anyway, no one said anything on journey, I thought nothing of it.

On the way back the plane was practically empty, loads of room, DS slept like the baby he is and then needed a nappy change, so I did it on the seat again. When I took nappy to loo to bin, I was given a right old lecture by head hostess - unhygienic, have to serve food, perfectly adequate facilities in loo etc. I said that they weren't adequate and if I couldn't safely do it loo, what was I supposed to do. No answer just severe looks.

After telling DP he did the next nappy change in loo. Turbulence meant that DS nearly fell off table and DP agreed that the facilities were far from adequate for a bigger baby.

Anyway, what I want to know is your thoughts - was I UR for changing DS in seats? Or was head hostess UR for making a fuss (no-one had on my outward journey)? Or should planes have proper baby changing facilities to make it all safe and hygienic?

OP posts:
trixiechick · 08/01/2010 04:02

its all about speed, i hate airplane toilets nothing wrong with a quick whip and wipe in the seats if you're quick and have a perfumed nappy bag at the ready. I changed dd nappy at the back of a church during a wedding recently.....
don't feel bad its hard enough flying with los without feeling bad about a quick nappy change.

nancydrewrocks · 08/01/2010 04:03

I'd be very pissed off if someone changed a shitty nappy near me on a plane. Grim.

Phoenix4725 · 08/01/2010 04:49

nancydrewwrocks

wonders how many people she will piss of in june long haul flights ds will need nappy change at least once and not in toilets either

Phoenix4725 · 08/01/2010 04:50

triexchick

yep have mastered that pretty well to since not many places change a almost 5 year old

nancydrewrocks · 08/01/2010 05:01

phoenix honestly you'll probably piss off a lot of people but I hope most people would appreciate there were extenuating circumstances (incidentally if you raise it with the air stewards what is their response - are airlines not obliged to make arrangements in such circumstances?)

However for a regular run of the mill situation children should be changed in the toilets. The I am a parent, I am entitled attitude does grate on me to be honest.

Phoenix4725 · 08/01/2010 05:10

nope there is nothing available at all to help or give ds some privacy when he needs changing same as when travel anywhere by train.There is no adjustments at all even for a adult or older child in wheelchair once on a plne case of better hope got strong bladder .

Once boarded only way ds can move be me carrying him and tahts tough in narrow aisles

Nancydrew truth i ahve grown a pretty thich skin over time and got the death stare down to fine art mind dd has been known to mutter loudly at starers have you finshed yet , she loves her little brother to bits

nancydrewrocks · 08/01/2010 05:15

Phoenix that is rubbish

Phoenix4725 · 08/01/2010 05:20

on a train there is a disbaled loo thats if not out of order or people standing in aisles and you can only reach if you manged to get one of the 2 disabled spaces on trains those that have them of course since you can not fit a chair down the aisle even a childs one

FultonMcKay · 08/01/2010 06:09

I don't think you are BU. I would have said (loudly) "so the areoplane is not fully cleaned and sanitised after each flight then?" because if it is then it should not be a problem, presuming YOU are willing to risk the hygenic risks of baby poo. I bet you changed it as quick as lightning and the other passengers did not even notice.

TrinityIsFuckingTrying · 08/01/2010 06:14

I dont think you;re being unreasonable at all
If I had been near you I wouldn't have given a toss

BouncingTurtle · 08/01/2010 07:25

I changed DS(2yo)'s nappy on an Easyjet flight last Octobe, just a wet one but I changed in the loo. His nappy had leaked which was the only reason why I changed him.
What a bloody nightmare! Couldn't stand him up because no room, so laid him down on very precarious baby table which more like a narrow shelf, ended up whacking his head and mine .
And he is tiny for his age!
So I can't say I blame you for changing him on the seat.

skihorse · 08/01/2010 08:02

YABU - disgusting.

lucyellensmumagain · 08/01/2010 08:12

i cant beleive people think you are BU, i would have done exactly the same thing - toilets on planes are vile

silverfrog · 08/01/2010 08:16

If you are flying on an aeroplane with business class make a fuss and go and use those toilets. I have changed dd1 (aged 5 and very tall) both in normal plane toilets (usually standing up) and in business class, where the cubicle is just about large enough to let her lie down, albeit with knees bent up.

People will still complain, but if the normal toilets aren't big enough, what else are you meant to do?

BalloonSlayer · 08/01/2010 08:19

I wouldn't have cared if I had been near you either. It's not as if planes are full of alpine-fresh air anyway; you're constantly smelling the waft from the bogs and other passengers' farts, BO and garlic breath, to say nothing of the foul stench of the bloody food. What does the nappy of a little baby matter?

theressomethingaboutmarie · 08/01/2010 08:24

I changed DD's wet nappy on a flight. I asked the passengers in our aisle if they would prefer I didn't and they were fine with it. She was 10 months old at the time, soaked through and there was a queue for the loos.

NickNemo · 08/01/2010 08:32

Lark, I had an awful experience on a BA flight to India. Basically, DD is 2 and a big girl and there is no way in hell she fits on the tiny nappy changing section in the BA loos (she was easily double the size of the changing table) and there was no space to do it on the floors either (disgusting, but I would have done it, if there was space). I actually thought I would have to change her on the seats if she poos. Luckily as it was only a wet nappy, I managed by getting her to stand on the loo seat and used a pull up.

So, from my side, YANBU at all! The facilities on some flights are frankly totally inadequate and a joke. I can only imagine that there is no way a wheelchair would fit into these loos either.

ApplesinmyPocket · 08/01/2010 08:37

YA so NBU. The young of our species poo and need cleaning up, what are parents supposed to do? It's not like you had a monkey in there shitting all over the place, now that WOULD have BU, but when travelling we're always coming into contact with both seen and unseen evidence that humans poo. Head Honcho was too jobsworth by far.

I once changed a tampon in St Peter's Square, probably in full view of the Pope who was trundling around in his PopeMobile at the time, and I expect that was pretty gross too but I too was desperate having just spent six hours on a coach on the first day of my period in boiling hot weather with a toddler and no idea where any loos were once they tipped us off the coach. Humans have messy bodily functions and that's that.

Disclaimer: I had a dress on and was very discreet.

maxybrown · 08/01/2010 08:43

To begin wth I would think yuk, BUT I hate even using baby changin rooms in public loos, make me shudder. DS is 2 now but I still hate them - and I am certainly no clean freak either!!
So keeping that in mind (and I have never been on a plane) I would have done it in seat if needbe. I have seen someone do it on a bus once - a 20 min journey and I thought that was a little OTT to be honest. I would have perhaps been very apolgetic and a bit embarrassed but still done it...

theressomethingaboutmarie · 08/01/2010 08:50

Applesinmypocket...how? I'm snorting with laughter and amazed that you did this. How?

slummymummy36 · 08/01/2010 08:58

About 10 years ago I was on an internal BA flight from Inverness to Heathrow when My DD needed changing soon after lift off.

I asked the hostess where was best to change DD and as the flight was pretty empty she just usherd me to a row of seats towards the back of the plane. When I finished she offerd to take the nappy sack away.

Was well impressed.

I have to say I am impresse with nyone who manages to change a toddler or older baby in the loo on a plane!

tulpe · 08/01/2010 09:15

YADNBU.

I have done this with my DCs on flights, train journeys and bus journeys.

Services are inadequate and, as others have pointed out, it's not as though the rest of the passengers are all stunningly fresh smelling either.

Takes a mere minute, if that, for an experienced bum changer to whip off revolting nappy and replace with fresh. As long as it was bagged and binned within minutes I really don't see the problem.

If somebody complained about me doing so I would probably have been quite rude to them in return, pointing out their shortfalls in the aroma department, tbh

ApplesinmyPocket · 08/01/2010 09:28

theressomethingaboutmarie: I crouched down by a big, ornate Roman fountain which possibly had seen nothing but holiness and beauty in its life before, and diverted the toddler by pointing out possible things of interest a long, long way away: 'ooh look over there little Apples at those great big soldiers in pretty skirts' (this the Swiss Guard, probably on the lookout for strange foreign women changing tampons on Holy Ground). Sorted through bag with one hand to find the necessary, hand sneaked up skirt, rummaged, removed sopping tampon, dropped in plastic bag, unpeeled another and, in my squatting position, fortunately found the correct insertion point and it was up there in a trice.

Then I walked on cool as a cucumber and refused to meet any curious eyes.

It is hell being a woman sometimes, isn't it. Like the time I got OFF the train at Reading, RAN through the city with a jumper round my waist till I found a department store, bought a pair of trousers and changed out of the pale pink ones that I had realised (somewhere between Chelt and Swindon) had become unfortunately brightly badged with scarlet around the bum/crotch area. Then I ran back and resumed my journey, less than an half an hour late.

Sorry for hijack: as you were. OP is not BU.

MorningTownRide · 08/01/2010 09:38

Fu

king

hell

No pads? Not even a panty liner? Couldn't have found a supermarket/ pharmacy, or asked someone where the loos are??

slummymummy36 · 08/01/2010 09:43

PMSL At Apples!!

That is impressive!!

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