To feel depressed that exW took DSSs to Miami

[Bonsoir]

for a fortnight at Christmas and for them to have come back having gained a huge new Abercrombie & Fitch wardrobe and 4kgs apiece?

Having the desire to express your own opnion is frowned upon and the MN gestapo stamp on anyone who dares to offer an alternative view.

Don't really understand the vitriolic polemics that are hurled at Bonsoir but it is not necessary.

I happen to agree with Bonsoir that putting on that amount of weight in a short space of time is unhealthy. We are concered about our 5yo who has developed a bit of a tummy over the festive period so we have cut down his portion size and limit his biscuit/chocolate intake. If he is hungry, he eats more fruit like bananas as that is filling.

I find it rather telling taht the boys overindulged so much o put on hat amount of weight in such a short space of time. IMO that cries out volumes with regards to food/weight issues. At 15 you are more than capable (if having been brought up with a heqalthy attitude to food) to make sensible decisions when ordering in a restaurant. And am that he is already aware that he doesn't lose weight easily (how often has he tried to lose weight seeing as he is only 15!!!!!)

all is very well having a opinion, but not when it turns into a personal attack.
Agree spokette, I have a underweigh child, who I would love to eat all things fatty, but No he'd rather have fish and veg stick any day

So what's different about education in France? I have only recently learned how it's done in the UK and am a bit worried, actually!

Perhaps Bonsoir could free up some much-needed time to pursue her many important family responsibilities by not engaging in blatant sockpuppetry so much rigorous debate on the web

Ah no ComeOveneer - it's insanely easy to put on weight in Miami - I did it myself. It's the pancakes... and the maple syrup... and the walnuts and ice cream...

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Sorry, where was I? Anyway - weight that goes on that fast drops off just as quickly. I still say it's not a big deal...

Feierabend - where are you from? Germany?

Spokette: I agree that gorging and rapid weight gain are unhealthy - but has your 5 yo ended up in tears over his/her weight gain? And are you treating it like a huge and troublesome deal that you will be responsible for a difficult regime? No - you have simply decided to monitor portions and healthy eating as appropriate.

HulluGully - But Bonsoir is English, I think - aren't you, Bonsoir?

She's half English half Walloon.

And if she denies that, at least let her tell us what she is.

Cor blimey I've been spending half the morning 'helping my children with their education' (or rather the 6 year old) ie the loony questions sent by the teachers coz they are snowbound. Bonsoir has a 4 year old and yet can spend all her time on here.

'measure distance between your eyes' (what - to see criminal tendencies?? - sorry going off thread)

But living in France.

Yes, Bonsoir is English. Her DHP is French.

Hah! Just been asked to do six year old's waist measurement. Maybe the teacher also an ex-Brussels sprout with a children's weight complex...

I grew up there with a mother not dissimilar to Anna in her obsession with weight and my sister was hospitalised when she was 14 because her anorexia nearly killed her. So I am deadly serious when I attack Anna and her partner's parenting skills, not being a bitch. Please learn to tell the difference.

Haven't read whole thread yet - taking me hours with this page-at-a-time layout - but absolutely had to post! Having lived in Paris for many years and with children still in the French education system I recognise only too well the French obsession with weight that you describe. I have just reached your post about the class breakfast and having attended many such gatherings myself can picture it all too clearly - none of the women eating anything (we should just provide black coffee and a smoking room at these events) and every last stick insect of them obsessing about their weight. As a Brit I find it odd, slightly amusing and also a bit worrying. I post on Mumsnet to hear the commonsense of English mums. I'm wondering why you bother Bonsoir (or is it Anna?). Clearly you have actually become French - surely you don't expect the collective wisdom of Mumsnet to back up your ridiculous French preoccupations. Is there not some equivalent French chatroom where you could take your concerns?
Right, back to the thread - looking forward to see what happens after page ten - and may I take this opposrtunity to thank all the wise Mumsnetters who kept me sane while I was abroad.

this isnt wholly about weight.the weight is external representation of a deeper malaise and demonisation of the ex-wife.the next anna thread will continue to demonise the ex-wife and her all alleged shortcomings be it dss educational/social/moral development.of course anna and her dp exemplary interventions and rigour will be held up as buffer against fat demonised ex-wife

thanks scottish mummy for pointing out the elephant in the room, was feeling a bit isolated here.
Anna, get real, you need to adress this. They WILL resent you in the end. She is their mother. Work with her if you can, but not against her. Don't think the passive aggressive attitude will go unnoticed.

Bonsoir - yes. Although am thinking about becoming British so I get a say in the next general election.

I agree that comments made have been quite personal, but to be fair, Bonsoir isn't one to hold back from making really rude personal comments on threads herself. IMO if you dish it out, be prepared to take it.

LongTallJosie, when I lived in America I managed quite easily not to over indulge and eat healthily. I also have to say that of all my french relatives wo live all over France (including Paris), and who are well educated, professionals, none have this ridiculous attitude to weight/food. I have to say I can't imagine anything more dull than being in a room full of people discussing their weight. I don't call a fig what anybody else weighs, sounds beyond dull imo!!!!

Why do you assume that someone who vents to others about their frustrations is not capable of working on a project constructively with those that frustrate them? That's a very limited vision of human behaviour.

I repeat: there is no animosity going on between DP and his exW about the boys. There are plenty of negotiations about agendas, school etc but aggro.

aggro is only the solution of last resort, when things get OTT (as they always do in divorces), and always from lawyer to lawyer, as it should be.

Feierabend, I thought EU nationals could vote in British elections, if on the electoral roll.

TheBossOfMe "Bonsoir isn't one to hold back from making really rude personal comments on threads herself. IMO if you dish it out, be prepared to take it."

Are you sure that I make a lot of personal comments? I am very careful only to be harsh in self-defence.

As far as I know I can vote in the local council elections but can't help you get rid of Gordon! Would like to though.

EU nationals residing in another EU country of which they are not a national may vote in local/regional elections (depends on country) and in European elections, but not national/general elections.