To not want photos of my dd and new dc posted on Facebook?

[mama2moo]

I used to love Facebook but now there are so many people on it that I dont really like (ie dp's family) that Im starting to hate it.

MIL likes to post my photo albums to her profile.

I know its their family too but I hate the thought of strangers looking at my children.

Also, I have banned dp from telling anyone that Im in labour this time as Im sure that will posted on there.

AIBU or just hormonal?

It is entirely connected to the privacy settings of your albums. Mine are only viewable by friends.

Stop scaremongering

Alright, lets try this out. Sooty, I set youa mission. I want you to find a picture of one of my pet rats. I choose that because they are tagged much the same as a baby, they do not have their own page, so they are tagged but without it being linked to a specific profile.

My name is Kat O'Brien, my profile picture is of me pretending to lick the end of a Bah Humbug XMas hat (don't ask), I wont tell you all 4 rats names, as only a friend, not a stranger would know that. If you can link to a picture of one of them in a FB album then I'll conceed to you.

All four have been linked to on friends pages, obviously I wont tell you which friends obviously, as if you were a stranger you wouldn't know

Yes, we are aware of this. But again, you would need to be a friend of a friend in order to see this. Not a total stranger. Total strangers can only see what you allow them to see.

That isn't total strangers though is it? Friends of friends as Kaloki says. And really, I don't care that much. If you're that protective of your privacy, then don't join facebook, it's quite simple. I could trawl through all my friends pages and see if they've commented on their friends' albums and look at them but I've got better things to do with my time. As have most people.

Something I only was informed of a few days ago is that any photos you post on FB become copyright of FB and they can use the photos however they like (IIRC after a certain time).

It has certainly put me off posting photos on FB!

You may want to consider this.

Here is a link to this for more info. Quite worrying I think.
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/kateday/8605687/why_i_will_think_twice_before_uploading_photographs_to _facebook/

The only thing I don't like about Facebook is that even if you yourself choose not to have a facebook account, someone else might still post pics of you and family. I'm not worried about any harm coming to my child as a result, it's just an invasion of privacy.

If you have the time, untag all 'your' photos... I'll bet she won't notice!

Potentially anything you put on a computer linked to the internet can be used by anyone for anything. If you put your pictures on Facebook, photobucket or anywhere else, you are just trusting that website to keep them securely, delete them when you no longer use them and not change their terms and conditions to a usage you don't disagree with. In fact, anything you do, type or store on your computer is /potentially/ retrievable, no matter how many times you delete it, format the hard drive or smash it with a hammer. Digital forensic technology is becoming more powerful all the time and can potentially retrieve information from the tiniest trace left on a hard drive.

Now that said, there are thousands of events happening on your computer every time you use it and there are hundreds of millions of pictures of children on the internet. The chances of your children being targetted for anything are unlikely unless there is an existing offline threat. There is 'some' security in obscurity - looking for a needle in a haystack of data and images aren't that easily searchable. But we're arguing about potentials here and what could or might possibly happen.

The internet is rapidly just becoming an extension of everyday life. We all leave digital trails and are more and more googleable. If you've never tried it, google yourself, you may be surprised!

In twenty years time, it will be more so - vast amounts of information will be available about everyone which means the culture will probably be different. I think it's unlikely children will be bullied because of their baby pictures because the pictures simply won't be that much of a big deal - every other kid will have baby pictures out there. (And why the embarrassment? On X Factor they used the contestants' baby pics)

Some employers are actually suspicious if googling a potential employee DOESN'T bring anything up. It comes across as them having something to hide.

Don't upload photos to the web if this is important to you. As I said upthread, they are there forever and once they are up that's it they are open to anyone who wants to see and has the slightest know how.

Personally I don't think there is any harm in having photos of myself/DS on the web but if you do think that then it is a really bad idea to put them even on "secure" sites.

I married a hacker, trust me there is no such thing as a secure site.

Sooty > trust me, she wont mind, there are far more incriminating photos of her that she has uploaded herself! Also, that was no wig, that was my actual hair dreaded, I miss it

That's fair enough (and quite amusing - will kill that boy, he could have at least uploaded some pictures of me not looking pissed!), although that album was not uploaded by me. You shouldn't be able to find any of the albums I uploaded though.

Which, in the case of baby photos, is how it would be.

UnseenAcademicalMum There was a huge uproar about that, both me and DP left FB when that was made public. However, FB have now had to change that due to said uproar. The only person who owns copyright to a picture is the photo taker unless specifically said otherwise. FB's current T&C only allows for them to host you photos and allow them to appear on computer screens. They cannot use your images any other way.

Also, as Carmen says, everyone is googleable. Even without FB. A company I used to work with dealt with selling software etc and spoke to some sellers who proved this to my colleague, pulling up info which wasn't accessible through FB. Even by posting on MN there is a lot of info on you. I believe that even without ever using the internet there is still data on you online. We are living online more and more, you can't stop the tide of it. If you are really bothered then do not post anything online, it will reduce the data on you at least.

Morloth Very very true. I think people need more education on the internet really.

I found my address online a couple of times just by googling. Once, I think someone I bought from on Amazon Marketplace sold my details to a dodgy mailing list which got published on the internet.

I also had my details published by Toyota online once in a cock-up when they let a page of competition entrants go public. I emailed them to complain and they brought it down quickly, but there are archival services. The Wayback machine for example archives loads of old stuff from the web to its own computers, so it becomes very hard to remove info permanently once it has been published.

Data privacy is really complex, especially as the internet crosses international borders so other countries may have more lax regulations than the UK. Personally, I'm not too worried and live life like a mini soap opera on Facebook but everyone has different tolerance levels. But we're all in the same boat - you're unlikely to be targeted for anything unpleasant unless there's an existing threat or you act in a particularly attention-grabbing way online. And 99 percent of the time, the only thing people want your info for is to use it to sell you stuff.

Actually, knowing the person who uploaded that album (my technologically illiterate little brother) his privacy settings are probably almost non existent. I'm amazed you haven't found my dad's photos of me TBH It appears I'm the only one in the family who can work a computer.

But yeah, my albums should be harder to find. Otherwise I'm going to be emailing FB to find out why the hell their settings don't do as described.

I'm not sure.. shall have to ask him when I talk to him later. I just assumed, that as he is a daft bastard that his wouldn't be.

Sooty > where does it say his album is set to private?