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To Get Back Together with mt Previously Abusive Ex

323 replies

JustCause · 07/12/2009 17:59

I have namechanged for this because anyone reading the first few lines will probably think I have gone insane. But I am a regular and have posted about the relationship before.
Anyway.
My then DP left me for OW at the beginning of the year. Even though our relationship was barely-there, I thought it would work out. Our DD wasnt even a year old and I was very wrapped up in her and too exasperated/weary of his behaviour to really care about what he thought.
I knew it wouldnt work out with OW and it imploded spectacularly when during one of their fights he hit her twice and she called the police. After initially saying they would work it out, she then changed her mind and told him it was over.
He then contacted me 2 weeks later and told me it was over between them. I agreed to see him and was stunned that after all he'd done I still had feelings for him.
I hadnt expected to.
I hadnt seen him for months which was my doing.
We have a hell of a history so I have my reasons for wanting to give him another chance. He is hugely apologetic and
HERE IS THE IMPORTANT PART.
Has agreed to go on a Pat-Craven type course for abusive men. I wouldn't have agreed to us getting back together if he hadnt.

He is now several weeks into the course and attending every week and on time.

He has been a selfish, nasty, dangerous prick at times but I believe this has been a wake-up call for him.
For one thing he has faced three nights in a police cell and for another there have been other consequences. OW has exercised her right to press charges (after initially deciding not to) so that has led to other stuff I dont want to go into here.

I dont know what the future holds, but if there's a chance he wants to change, and does and we are able to be a family again, AIBU for wanting to be back with him?

OP posts:
AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2009 18:40

longwee, FWIW I also said I was leaving the thread

but am still reading, if not posting

what is your problem ?

Flightattendant · 08/12/2009 18:43

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ImSoNotTelling · 08/12/2009 18:50

What's BESH?

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2009 18:55

aww

err yes, what is besh ?

mistletoekisses · 08/12/2009 19:01

Yes, what is BESH??

Longwee - there are oodles of threads where posters say they are leaving, but don't. Very odd post on your behalf - am with FA, are you the OP? And bit out of order to pick on one poster out of so many.

I posted very early on, and the thread disturbed me so much, I didnt want to come back...but I have, it is car crash tv on mnet...because I am still desperately hoping that the OP is a troll. And if not, then praying that someone on here manages to get through to her.

I simply cannot believe that having gotten out of the situation, someone would even consider exposing their child to a person with that sort of background! Seriously, what is wrong with you?

Flightattendant · 08/12/2009 19:06

Sorry, I immediately asked to withdraw that post as I don't want it to be taken the wrong way...they know who they are and are a great bunch, I just was worried by the post and made the connection...anyway...never mind.

Sometimes in life there are people lurking who don't really like you. It's difficult if you don't know why though or what you might ahve done.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2009 19:22

kisses, I know what you mean

I am still lurking because somehow I hope will turn out OK (how stoopid am I?)

or OP will be exposed as a troll and we can all heave a sigh of relief

JustCause, a quick query, you mention a dd. Is she your only child ?

madamearcati · 08/12/2009 19:34

JC Firstly by your own admission your relationship was 'barely there' before all this .
Secondly he left you for OW.
Thirdly he has shown himself on more than one occasion to be violent you describe him as 'dangerous'
Finally I truly believe he only wants to get back to you to look good when he goes to court.
'Oh yes guv it was a moment of madness .I've come to my senses now and doing an anger management course and have a stable homelife with the full support and love of my wife and child.'
It's bollox
I really hope you are a troll !
If you won't ditch him for your own self esteem, think what messsage you are sending to your DD .That it's Ok to let men cheat on and hit women

JustCause · 08/12/2009 21:00

I have just called him and said that if he really loved us he would agree to stop seeing me and put DD first.
Your comments about being prepared to feel shit for the sake of my DD struck a nerve.

I am terrified he will do something stupid, as he hung up crying. But I needed to say it.

I'm going now. I'm sick of the attacks. To the posters who have written eloquently and with genuine empathy and concern for DD's wellbeing, thank you. It gave me a much-needed kick up the arse.

To those who have no idea how this feels and just fancied weighing in with their judgey tuppence, I hope to god you never have to go through this, or any of your loved ones.

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scottishmummy · 08/12/2009 21:07

you are indulging in what-if fantasy.my love will save us/save him

he has shown you his behaviours
raised his hand to you and ow

of course you still have feelings,deep rooted emotions cannot be turned off like a tap BUT emotions can cloud your judgement

i beg caution,and dont take him back

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2009 21:09

he doesn't have to "agree" to stop seeing you

you stop seeing him, end of

and if he makes it difficult, you inform the police

sparklefrog · 08/12/2009 21:12

I can't read all this and not post!

I grew up in a DV household. My mother hoped that my father would change, that if he felt secure enough, if she loved him enough, if he felt loved enough, if he was given the right help etc etc, he would see the error of his ways, and he would change.

I swore to myself that I would NEVER end up in a DV relationship, at any cost!!!! (I was wrong!!!)

I know alot of people may disagree with me, but I blamed my MOTHER, not my father.
IMHO, it was my MOTHER who was weak, powerless, pathetic, a victim, and my anger was directed passive aggressively alot of the time, but still there nonetheless, at my mother.

I blamed my mother for not removing me from the situation, I blamed my mother for not protecting me, I lost faith in my mother's ability to protect me, I didn't understand her feelings and I didn't want to.

My attitude was that if she wanted to allow herself to be treated this way, she should at least give her DC the chance to live in an abuse free home, but she was too weak to do this.

Eventually, my mother left him, although it tore me apart to see her pining for the twat, especially after he had by then been violent to all of her DC, including me, and it wasn't just the once, it went on for years, and do you know what my deluded mother said when my father was violent to us DC, she said we shouldn't have pissed him off!!!
I grew up to be a people pleaser (no surprises there then) and to feel this powerful urge to give people another chance and another chance, over and over. I had no self esteem and no confidence whatsoever.

The twat turned up at our new address one day, and begged to be given another chance, and I told my mother there and then, that if she took him back, I was gone, because I would not live under that fear a moment longer.

Roll on 20 years.

I have just escaped a nasty abusive relationship, so it can happen to anyone, I know that now. My DD is 16 mnths old. She will grow up to see that abuse should never be tolerated, and that her mummy is not a weak pathetic powerless victim.
I am just beginning, after almost 40 years, to find some self esteem and a tiny bit of confidence.
My DD will grow up being given a totally different opinion of herself than I was. I will make sure of this, as I did with my DS, and still do!!

I would rather be a single parent for the rest of my life than be with a dickhead like OP's P.

If you think this will not affect yr DD, you are deluding yrself.

I am nearing 40, and I am still angry with my mother, when I think about what she put us through for the sake of a man total fuckwit!!!

Prioritising a man over your children is unacceptable in this case.

I am so angry that you would totally fuck up your DD's values and standards and radar, where men are concerned by even thinking of giving him another chance. I know its hard, I am not too far down the road of escaping my abusive ex myself, but when I have a wobble, threads like this one help me to realise, It is not the twat you miss, it is the man you wish he was!

If you really want to be with him, take your DD completely out of the situation, and get on with it, just you and your P.
Your DD deserves better, even if you don't think you do.

So sorry for the rant, but this thread has left me and very very sad.

What a selfish, self absorbed, deluded OP.

sparklefrog · 08/12/2009 21:16

And if you think I have been 'judgey' OP, I am sorry, but I have been there, in my own relationship and grew up in a DV situation.

Imagine having a conversation with yr DD in say 15 years time, where you have to explain why you gave your P another chance, and stuck with him?

What would you say?

dittany · 08/12/2009 21:18

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mistletoekisses · 08/12/2009 21:19

OP - I think you have misunderstood the tone of a lot of the posters on here.

I think earlier on in this thread, people were trying their best to be supportive. It was your subsequent posts that quite frankly alarmed (and I dont think I am exaggerating) everyone who has posted on this thread! So the posts have become much more strongly worded and yes, as you say attacking posts.

But you have to know that this thread is a very scary thread. Strangers are posting on here, pleading and willing you not to put your DD in this situation. We are trying to get through to you.

In your last post 'if he really loved us he would agree to stop seeing me and put DD first.'

NO. If you really love your DD, you would put her and you first and tell him in no uncertain terms to get out of your lives.

This isnt me being judgey. I would hate to be with someone who turned out to be violent. I dont know how it feels to have a child with someone like that. But I know that I would give up everything to protect my DS.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2009 21:25

scottishmummy, OP has already taken him back

even though her dd is on the child protection register because of his presence in their lives

a little more than "caution" is required here

dittany · 08/12/2009 21:26

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ChickensHaveNoTinsel · 08/12/2009 21:28

dittany, I find that notion absolutely horrifying

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2009 21:29

dittany, there is also a chance she is a selfish bint who loves all the drama and attention this is affording her

and is willing to sacrifice her own dd's right to a safe childhood to continue a mutually-destructive relationship with an abuser

mrswill · 08/12/2009 21:30

You being terrified he'll do something stupid - Thats another way of control JustCause - one of the many recognised ways in which abusers try and gain control back, is make their victims feel sorry for them and responsible for what his actions will be next. Dont fall for it.

What information have you read up about on Domestic Violence. Many of the situations and kind of process the relationship has followed, is nearly to the T on what the archetypal domestic violence relationship is like. Have you read up on the cycle of violence, how the abuser is genuinely remorseful and devastated by their actions, then leading to a buildup of tension within the relationship, arguments etc, finally ending in another incident of violence. Have you have a good look through on how DV effects children, how they find making friends difficult, low school performance. Im aware you've been receiving counselling, and Im genuinely interested in if you've looked up and read about the situation you've ended up in.

People are being harsh as their frustrated as you dont seem to be that bothered by the situation your in, and your attention is focused entirely on this man. Print out this thread and read it back in a few years.

Ive offered all the advice im going to. You need to start looking objectively at the situation your in. You come out of a violent relationship in which you and your dd were not treated well and you were hit, he then left you after he been cheating, treated OW in much the same way. You've now taking him back, even though he has a court case pending, and may go to prison for abusing another woman, SS are on the scene and have put your child on the at risk register, i very much doubt your friends are supporting this relationship. I was very concerned for you child when reading this thread, as you at least have choices, you dd does not. Im glad to see SS are taking it seriously and will safeguard your child. You will be under more scrutiny with SS now, you do realise that?? You do realise your child potentially may be removed from your care because you chose to have a relationship with a violent offender even though you have all the facts at hand??

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2009 21:32

she realises all that mrswill

and then carries on justifying it, regardless

mrswill · 08/12/2009 21:35

Sparklefrog, that is a really moving post, and some great advice.

mrswill · 08/12/2009 21:39

Anyfucker - i find the OP's posts very strange, how can you keep justifying something when you have the cold hard facts at your disposal. Its like arguing black is white.

scottishmummy · 08/12/2009 21:40

look no amount of berating op will change her mind

maybe she likes the head fuckery and drama
maybe she is fragile and avoidant
none of us know

it alarming she has a dd involved

dittany · 08/12/2009 21:41

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