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AIBU in thinking that nowadays

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TheUsefulSuspect · 25/11/2009 15:31

everyone has to have an excuse or label for any problem

Kids who misbehave are all ADHD

Blokes who are mistreat women and children are either NPD or Depressed

Women who lose the plot are either depressed or got PND

Kids who are simply a bit thick all have some sort of dyslexia

I think this simply excuses kids who are badly parented, blokes who are scume bags, women who are bonkers and kids who are stupid, and it takes away time, focus amd resources from people and children with genuine problems.

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claw3 · 26/11/2009 17:49

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scottishmummy · 26/11/2009 18:04

spokette life isnt full of wilful children with effete parents and misdiagnosed labels. it is genuinely more complex

Dx is a long laboured process,of observational assessments,family interviews,other hcp. it is arrived at arbitrarily

Greensleeves · 26/11/2009 18:07

threads with "nowadays" in the title seldom go well

Am astounded that people think parents WANT their children to have SN labels. It's not exactly something you celebrate.

Also depressing to see teachers with disgusting and arrogant attitudes - thank goodness they are not teaching in my childre's school.

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AliGrylls · 26/11/2009 18:20

I agree with OP to an extent. - there does seem to be a lot more people diagnosed with these illnesses nowadays. I am sure part of it is increased awareness, but are they all genuine? For example, the woman who takes a year off work due to depression / the man who beats up his wife.

I often wonder what the point is of putting a name to something unless it actually helps treatment. For example, ADHD I have read that part of the treatment is dietary and includes a diet high in fish oils and low in sugar (please correct me if I am wrong). This to me just sounds like a healthy diet.

For a male with NPD what is the treatment? I am not sure there is one - just best avoided by female population I would say. And also, this recent thing I have read about criminals (it was in the Sunday Times last week) that apparently there is a gene which makes them more likely to participate in crminal activity - I stll want them kept off the streets permanently rather than to be "understood" / "treated".

claw3 · 26/11/2009 18:22

LOL grass

Sassybeast · 26/11/2009 18:24

I think it was much better in ye good old days when anyone a bit quirky or a bit different or a bit having learning difficulties was locked up in ye old asylum. Aye.

ByTheSea · 26/11/2009 18:26

Don't I just wish it was my ineffective parenting and was just sheer naughtiness with DS2? How is it then that I have three other chilren who are not rude, violent, oppositional, and badly behaved verging on criminal?

coppertop · 26/11/2009 18:26

I agree, Greensleeves.

No one goes out and throws a party because their child has a dx of SN. It's what used to be referred to on the SN board as "The club that no-one really wants to join".

I have two children with SN and one without. Life is certainly a lot more straightforward with the one with no SN:

No appointments with paediatricians or therapists.
No transition meetings other than the ones held for all parents.
No IEP meetings.
No extra equipment needed.
No need to have extra appointments with teaching staff.

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borderslass · 26/11/2009 18:32

For example, ADHD I have read that part of the treatment is dietary and includes a diet high in fish oils and low in sugar (please correct me if I am wrong). This to me just sounds like a healthy diet.

my children have always had the majority of their meals home cooked but my son is only affected by caffeine and chocolate daughter used to be extremely intolerant of additives and had to watch everything she ate but has outgrown this thankfully some doctors say there is a link others disagree.but it does depend on the child.

claw3 · 26/11/2009 18:37

ADHD and autism part of the disorder is dietary ie very limited diet caused by sensory issues. So making changes to a diet is easier said that done, as the child is usually very reluctant to even the smallest changes. Also 'sweet' foods are the most tolerable if your senses are over responsive to food.

claw3 · 26/11/2009 18:46

Come on Spookette dont take offence, you just bought out the Tourettes in me

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unfitmother · 26/11/2009 18:53

Nice one Sassybeast!
In the really good old days you could go and stare at them for an afternoon out.

claw3 · 26/11/2009 19:06

I much prefer to laugh and poke em with sticks, but could be tempting with the staring if there was a picnic thrown in.

You will have to excuse me now ladies my special needs child is howling at the moon

JorEl · 01/05/2011 08:19

As a teacher, the labels that bother me are the ones that aren't backed up by any actual medical diagnosis beyond observing that the child can't behave. Case in point? A 12 year old who threw a chair across a room at a member of staff who was 8 months pregnant. Did the mother arrive embarrassed and apologising? Nope, she came calmly explaining that we weren't properly addressing his impulse control and anger management issues. And, yes, he was back in the next lesson with an extra teaching assistant sitting next to him just in case. You say "anger management issues", I say "psychopathy"!

Goblinchild · 01/05/2011 08:21

You dragged up a nasty dead thread that's 18 months old to offer your pearl?
Lack of originality there.

goodbyemrschips · 01/05/2011 08:29

Please do not worry about dragging up old threads, because to me they are new [but old]

I have only been here since about Jan so an ols thread can sometimes be interesting to the new peeps.

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