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to not be able to get over my brother and SIL cutting us off

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 10:56

Feeling pretty devastated at the moment - I'm sory this is long but I'd really welcome your thoughts on this.

My brother and his wife have basically just cut us off. They have always been a bit funny (always have to be right, deaf to others' opinions, buying expensive presents for each other and their kids but giving crap presents to the rest of their family such as us, my mum and my brothers, we visit them regularly but they never make the effort to come to us, we've lived here 6 years and they've maybe visited 3 or 4 times) but we've just put up with it, but then this summer they were invited to ds1's 6th birthday party and were three hours late, they arrived as we were packing up (we had it in a village hall). They only live an hour away - and this is not the first time this has happened - didn't invite them last year but the year before they did the same thing, we had it at a soft play and I had paid for their kids to attend - they didn't even apologise or offer to reimburse me. They now have 4 kids including one baby so I can understand it is difficult getting out, but three hours?!? Also the time before they only had 2 kids and were 2 hours late. It was kind of a last straw so a few weeks later I told my brother how hurt I was, especially as they didn't even apologise, he just got really defensive and aggressive. Within minutes my sister-in-law was sounding off about it on Facebook. They haven't spoken to dh or I since, have deleted us both off their Facebook pages. My mum and other brother are really angry with them but have to say nothing for fear of being cut off also, mum would be devasted if cut off from her four grandchildren. Families hey. Wish I could just put it to one side and not think about them but I just can't let it go, I can't believe they have treated us like this. After Xmas we are moving abroad for a year with dh's work (of which I have sensed jealousy on their part) and it is highly unlikely that we will see them before we go. It is not fair on the kids either as my dses love playing with their cousins - you'd think they'd at least see us if only for the childrens' sake. I have continued to send birthday cards and presents which have not been returned, although no apologies either, although that is nothing new. Remains to be seen what they will do about Christmas presents.

Dh and I have often got the impression that they feel inferior to us, hence my SIL'd need to shout me down on my parenting opinions (her attitude to parenting is to put a crying baby in its room, shut the door and turn off the monitor - chills me to be honest). I did better academically than my brother and my dh has a better job, better income than him and I think they find that hard. Years back they were struggling financially and had just had a baby and we'd just got some inheritance so we bought a new car and basically just gave them our old one. At the time we thought we were doing them a favour but in hindsight I am wondering if that was unhelpful and made the gap between us wider.

I love my brother very much and despite my differences of opinion with my SIL I do care about her and my nephews/niece and it devastates me that they would shrug us off so easily.

I am wondering whether they are angry with us for having the chance to go abroad so it is convenient for them to push us aside at this time. I don't know.

All I know is that I want to be reconciled to them and simply cannot put them aside as they have done me, I am just not like that. I cannnot stand to be in discord with anybody.

We will be staying near to them for the few days before we leave the country as going to my mum's for Xmas, so we are going to tell them we will be there and would love to see them, can't see what else we can do.

Thank you for listening : )

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 17:54

GhoulsAreLoud - it was her parenting style with little newborn babies that chilled me - not her. I like her, I just don't like how she treats her babies, I believe she is wrong on that one but I also believe she means well.

Point taken about the Roses.

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 17:55

lol custardo at up own arse.

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 17:57

2rebecca - this is cos he said in his last message to me he wanted to cease contact, his and SIL deleted us off their facebook friends, and we are moving out of the country in a month's time so they won't see us then. agree a month does not sound like long.

I think on MN we are all very judgemental about each others parenting styles. please lets not get into that here!!!

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 17:58

ghouls I admit that was wrong of me. I was hurt and angry. they came back to the house afterwards for a few hours but I was distant with him. hands up that was wrong. but I also felt what they did was order of order also. did not talk it through with them at the time as it was ds's birthday.

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 18:00

I didn't want to leave the country with this not sorted out as then I wouldn't see them face to face for probably a year. I was worried the gap would widen in that time.

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BalloonSlayer · 12/11/2009 18:08

"you are right though they did make the effort to come "

Sorry, I still don't get this. Where is the "effort" in being

THREE

FUCKING

HOURS

LATE?

If they live an hour away - and had not got lost - this would have meant they left as the party was ending.

As they got lost, presumably they were planning to be "only" two hours late like they were the time before.

It is a deeply arrogant and unpleasant snub to leave for an event, knowing that you will miss most of it, without phoning and letting the hosts know.

I can't believe anyone thinks this is OK.

LynetteScavo · 12/11/2009 18:10

Oh dear...we spend much more on our chilren (and each other if we are buying each other presents) than parents/adult siblings/nephews and nieces. I thought everyonde did!

I also would never expect someone who was late to a party to reimburse me - it wouldn't even enter my head.

I suspect your DB and SIL do feel inferior to you, and I think they think you feel superior to them.

I have no idea why they were so late to the party - it does seem odd.

I would act as if nothing has happend form now on, and be very careful not to rub your good fortune and parenting style in their faces.

Tryingtobeorganisedthisyear · 12/11/2009 18:10

Give it one more go...then go and have a wonderful time abroad with your family,and enjoy that experience. Who knows what a year will bring.

You off somewhere nice?

AgentZigzag · 12/11/2009 18:13

It's possible that the gap wouldn't widen, but your relationship might soften with time and space? At least your mum is still in contact with them, so all the ties haven't been severed and there is hope for a relationship with them in the future.

crokky · 12/11/2009 18:19

PrincessElsa - I did not mean for my post to be rude. I was just trying to offer some suggestions as to why they might have taken offence and decided to cut you off. They were just ideas and I have obviously got it wrong.

The tone of your brother's emails imply that life is tough for him at the moment. This is not what SIL is showing during your visits, clearly, but your brother is does seem stressed with it all.

Since it is them cutting you off, it is you that needs to do the apologising and grovelling if you want to have a relationship with them. This is regardless of whether you have done anything wrong, because clearly in their eyes you have done something wrong. If it was me, I'd email saying that you would like to know what you have done to upset them because you would like to apologise for it and try and put it behind you.

GhoulsAreLoud · 12/11/2009 18:21

Can you apologise for ignoring them? Maybe he's really hacked off about that still, and then you demanding an apology on top?

I think they were unreasonably late but you dealt with it badly too.

forehead · 12/11/2009 18:44

PrincessEva,despite my earlier post, i think you have conducted yourself really well despite the barrage of attacks against you. I would email your brother and sil and tell them that you are sorry if you have offended them in any way and that you hope that they will keep in touch with you. The ball will be in their court as you have done what you can to rectify the situation.
Good luck

forehead · 12/11/2009 18:46

Sorry Princesselsa

PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 19:27

crokky - did not think you were rude, I just disagreed and explained why. no problem!

forehead - bless you, thank you.

thanks guys you have all been most helpful

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 19:37

would rather not say where we are going tryingtobeorganised, trying to remain anonymous here in fear that SIL might see this! thanks for asking tho.

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QueenofDreams · 12/11/2009 19:58

OP - I agree with Forehead. I don't think you've been that awful.
Mind you I grew up with a mother that ignored me for three days because she mis-heard something I said
The ball will then be firmly in his court, it's up to him and if he wants to be an arse that's his choice. At least you'll know you've tried.

coralanne · 13/11/2009 00:20

why was the party held in the village hall? I don't thing I would invite my siblings to a 6 year olds party and after travelling one hour with 4 small children herd them into a village hall. I would invite them to my home.

PrincessElsa · 13/11/2009 07:02

Family came back to the home afterwards.

Ds1 wanted a disco.

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LynetteScavo · 13/11/2009 16:21

So if they came to your home afterwards, why are you so cross? You still spent time with them. My siblings and I never fall out...not because we are all perfect, but something like this just wouldn't bother us.

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