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to not be able to get over my brother and SIL cutting us off

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 10:56

Feeling pretty devastated at the moment - I'm sory this is long but I'd really welcome your thoughts on this.

My brother and his wife have basically just cut us off. They have always been a bit funny (always have to be right, deaf to others' opinions, buying expensive presents for each other and their kids but giving crap presents to the rest of their family such as us, my mum and my brothers, we visit them regularly but they never make the effort to come to us, we've lived here 6 years and they've maybe visited 3 or 4 times) but we've just put up with it, but then this summer they were invited to ds1's 6th birthday party and were three hours late, they arrived as we were packing up (we had it in a village hall). They only live an hour away - and this is not the first time this has happened - didn't invite them last year but the year before they did the same thing, we had it at a soft play and I had paid for their kids to attend - they didn't even apologise or offer to reimburse me. They now have 4 kids including one baby so I can understand it is difficult getting out, but three hours?!? Also the time before they only had 2 kids and were 2 hours late. It was kind of a last straw so a few weeks later I told my brother how hurt I was, especially as they didn't even apologise, he just got really defensive and aggressive. Within minutes my sister-in-law was sounding off about it on Facebook. They haven't spoken to dh or I since, have deleted us both off their Facebook pages. My mum and other brother are really angry with them but have to say nothing for fear of being cut off also, mum would be devasted if cut off from her four grandchildren. Families hey. Wish I could just put it to one side and not think about them but I just can't let it go, I can't believe they have treated us like this. After Xmas we are moving abroad for a year with dh's work (of which I have sensed jealousy on their part) and it is highly unlikely that we will see them before we go. It is not fair on the kids either as my dses love playing with their cousins - you'd think they'd at least see us if only for the childrens' sake. I have continued to send birthday cards and presents which have not been returned, although no apologies either, although that is nothing new. Remains to be seen what they will do about Christmas presents.

Dh and I have often got the impression that they feel inferior to us, hence my SIL'd need to shout me down on my parenting opinions (her attitude to parenting is to put a crying baby in its room, shut the door and turn off the monitor - chills me to be honest). I did better academically than my brother and my dh has a better job, better income than him and I think they find that hard. Years back they were struggling financially and had just had a baby and we'd just got some inheritance so we bought a new car and basically just gave them our old one. At the time we thought we were doing them a favour but in hindsight I am wondering if that was unhelpful and made the gap between us wider.

I love my brother very much and despite my differences of opinion with my SIL I do care about her and my nephews/niece and it devastates me that they would shrug us off so easily.

I am wondering whether they are angry with us for having the chance to go abroad so it is convenient for them to push us aside at this time. I don't know.

All I know is that I want to be reconciled to them and simply cannot put them aside as they have done me, I am just not like that. I cannnot stand to be in discord with anybody.

We will be staying near to them for the few days before we leave the country as going to my mum's for Xmas, so we are going to tell them we will be there and would love to see them, can't see what else we can do.

Thank you for listening : )

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 16:20

by deleting not my deleting

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MorrisZapp · 12/11/2009 16:27

If you got on ok until a month ago and haven't heard from them in the month since the party, it doesn't seem long in the grand scheme of things, especially as you both have families and don't live in the same town.

Fwiw I let everything slide in my family. Confrontation has never seemed worth the grief to me. Stuff like lateness I'd say 'where were ya' but I would laugh about it unless I'd been put to a lot of trouble by it which to be fair, you weren't really.

I dunno, it just sounds to me maybe you're expecting too much from your relationship with your brother, especially as he now has a wife and 4 kids.

I get on great with my own brother and he lives near me, but thinking about it I only ever see him at family occasions. I think this is normal amongst the families I know.

forehead · 12/11/2009 16:34

OP i agree with posters who say that there is another side to this story. I for one am extremely uncomfortable with you suggesting that your brother and his wife are envious of you and your dh, this may or may not be the case, but you appear to me to be quite arrogant, constantly going on about the fact that you are financially better off than them. They probably think that you feel superior to them. I for one don't blame them for cutting you off.

PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 16:36

forehead, I don't "constant go on about the fact that you are financially better off than them" - I mentioned it once, in the OP, in an effort to try and understand where they might be coming from.

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 16:37

if it comes across as arrogance it wasn't intended. if I am I am sorry, none of use are perfect.

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Defluffmyfanjo · 12/11/2009 16:38

Don't understand posters who think its ok to be 3 hours late, I think that's terrible and very rude. Especially to a child's party, they only usually last 2 hours anyway.

PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 16:38

us

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beanieb · 12/11/2009 16:39

It is kind of up to individuals how much they spend on eachotehr and I certainly spend more on my DH's presents than I do on family.

Also they did turn up to the party at least, perhaps they got delayed but at least they did make the effort to come.

Are you sure your expectations aren't just a little high?

Hullygully · 12/11/2009 16:39

THEY COULD HAVE PHONED (am starting to feel like Ross shouting "we were on a break".)

PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 16:41

I think a tin of roses between me and dh is a bit mean to be honest but that's just my opinion.

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 16:42

you are right though they did make the effort to come and I didn't give them a warm welcome as I was so hurt/angry. point taken.

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QueenofDreams · 12/11/2009 16:43

OP - I still think it's bloody rude to turn up three hours late without bothering to call/text you. You're getting a lot of flack here. Maybe they do think you're a cut above them. But what would you be able to do to change that?
WRT presents, I also agree - put a little thought into it, even if the present doesn't cost much.

LOL hully

PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 16:46

also they got the invite at least a month before the event but never said a word that I can remember about the timing being a problem. had an email conversation with my brother about directions a few days before, again no warning from him about possible lateness, I just checked the emails which I still have.

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 16:49

also someone said they had a new baby - actually baby was of weaning age so not little baby - they said lateness was due to timing of the feeds but as they only live an hour away I can't understand how they couldn't have planned around it. I felt like they were using their kids as an excuse for them being disorganised. BUT yes I should love them warts and all and not take offence at their weaknesses.

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MorrisZapp · 12/11/2009 16:51

Of course he could/ should have phoned. And he didn't. Nobody is saying that wasn't rude.

But there's more to this than turning up late to a party.

OP, what did you say to him when he did turn up? Can you remember exactly?

Hullygully · 12/11/2009 16:52

Was it, fuck off you rude inferior mean present giving cunt?

PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 16:55

I ignored him

I was busy hosting party anyway.

I know it was wrong but I was so angry.

One reason he was late also was because I told him not to follow his sat nav as it would take him to the wrong place and gave him correct location. Typical man (lol) he ignored my advice and followed sat nav. When I rang he was lost. So another reason why I was ticked off.

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 16:56

apologies in advance to all the men out there ducks

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PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 16:56

ooops didn't know that would come out bold lol!

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QueenofDreams · 12/11/2009 17:00

OP - sorry your story has just changed.
If you rang and knew he was lost then you knew he was going to be late, surely?

PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 17:01

I rang him after 2 1/2 hours had passed.

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traceybath · 12/11/2009 17:02

I feel sorry for you now as you've taken all the comments on board so well.

Also Hully has me in stitches.

They probably are a nightmare - we're all just doing that mn thing of seeing the other side.

And of course the fact you're better off financially that your brother was never going to do you any favours on aibu .

I'd just back off to be honest and don't try to apply psychotherapy to them.

AgentZigzag · 12/11/2009 17:04

So not only were you pissed off at him for putting his own family over yours, you're now saying it was also because he didn't follow your instructions?

It does sound as though you don't like them because they don't do as they're told, just from what you've written you do sound a tad controlling.

PrincessElsa · 12/11/2009 17:04

thank you traceybath

obviously the people who love me are going to see things from my point of view so it is really helpful to me, albeit hard, to get a more objective view.

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Hullygully · 12/11/2009 17:05

Yeah you mad car giving party inviting trying to be kind Hitler bitch.