to be disgusted by the total moron parents who left a note on the car windscreen of my disabled parents' car

[TheDullWitch]

My parents, in their mid-80s, both who walk with sticks (my dad who just had a stroke) went to the supermarket. Since all the disabled spaces were filled and they struggle to walk more than a few yards, they parked in a parent and child space and left their disabled badge in the window.

When they returned to their car the following was written on a note on their windscreen. "This space is for parents, you stupid old bastards." This total and utter XXXX must have seen them struggle to walk and still thought that their own right to walk able-bodied with their toddler into a store was more important.

My mum and dad, who are gentle, kind people are so upset. I am so disgusted and upset.

SHAME ON YOU WHOEVER YOU ARE! SHAME ON YOU!

BALD, do you see what I mean?

I feel all lost in the supermarket...

...Are you my mum?

Interesting - is Janice Turner TheDullWitch or a plaigarist?

I think it's ok, I think it is kosher

disgusting....

yy tethersend

I am your mum

Come and hold my hand missy

Thanks.

Can I have a lolly?

agree - 'check cctv' a little ott

no

See, its stuff like this that makes mumsnet all weird.

Totally disgusting, I have a 'quite' unruly child, and while these spaces are convenient they are not essential.
My little monkey is totally trained in car park running around may equal death.
Harsh but true.
I would never begrudge someone of poor mobility use of a space near the entrance.
Ignorant idiots.

what do you mean -how exactlly themoon??

I found that a poisonous article myself, Judith Dullwitch. But I guess opinion is what they pay you for.

But hey, since presumably you're no longer in the baby phase s'ok to moan on about how precious all the new mummies are. Now that you no longer need the help and all.

I despise ageism and disablism enormously. And the fuckwits who left the note were just that. But your piece hangs a whole nonsense ideology on their crapness.

'Ooh all those whinging mothers with their demands for 'rights''. As if this is somehow evidence of a cultural shift, and as if needs somehow cancel each other out. The idiocy of fuckwits is no excuse for ignoring the needs of different groups of people.

All this outrage at P&T spaces! Why did we ever think they were a good idea in the first place? My, why don't we do away with maternity benefits and breastfeeding support too: we never needed that in my day...

The irony is that new mothers ARE socially excluded in many ways. That is not remotely the same as having an overdeveloped sense of entitlement.

It really isn't disability OR parenting, is it? It is about disability AND parenting. Bit thick to imagine otherwise.

TheDullWitch, Your poor parents.

Parents and Cars - a terrible combination when it comes to pumping up the sense of entitlement, the total lack of consideration for others. I think the ownership of a car is as bad as new parenthood, and your poor Mum and dad came up against a bad case.

In the year my DS was using a wheelchair I was frequently unable to park in Blue Badge space:
-because they were being used by young men who trotted straight into the changing rooms with their kit (Dulwich Park - numerous times) -because people had parked not actually IN the space but on the yellow lines all round it thereby making it unreachable (Brockwell Park - numerous times)
-because people 'hovver' - 'just for a minute' outside shops, but when you are circling looking for a space, all you see is the space taken.
-because in London the going rate for a stolen Blue Badge is £600 and they are used here there and everywhere by people who don't need them and are not entitled.

I'm glad this thread made you feel a little better, but sadly the MN outrage doesn't seem to reflect the population as a whole

Janice . This is copied. must try harder

I agree with wilfsell.

(You have a problem with breastfeeding in church, Janice? Sounded like you rather wished you could leave a nasty note yourself for anyone who transgressed your ideas of the "right place". I supposed you settled for writing an article online. Somewhat hypocritical.)

i thought it was quite a good article, actually

and OP - disgusting what happened to your parents.

But the majority of posters on this thread have commented on how incosiderate and up themselves many parents of small children can be! It is a v well reharsed position on MN. So, hardly an original or unusual opinion to be published in a paper, but a common opinion on MN too!

I'm just surprised that so many people here were in suport of TDW's parents because usually a good P&C Parking thread will feature a few posters who like to have a good moan about Blue Badge parkers in P&C ("oh, it isn't allowed the other way round it's not fair...")

By the way, the Quinny Zapp is tiny. I suspect you are thinking of some other buggy.

blu it's sloppy journalism at best isn't it???

Soph - why, specifically?

This was a popular thread - loads of responses. Obv something the OP felt strongly about...a few days later an 'opinion' column, no quotes,....I honestly don't get the big deal...if it was sloppy journalism, then was it a sloppy thread? or do we expect a lower level of debate and comment, here on MN?

Janice . This is copied. must try harder

Not really.

Janice Turner = TheDullWitch.

The fact that both this thread and that article refer to "my parents" should make that obvious. This thread, plus these threads about journos:

mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=in_the_news&threadid=828450-Why-does-the-Times-think-it-is-ok-to-print#1690 1409

mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=in_the_news&threadid=136218-sunday-times-article-about-working-women-by-ind ia-knight#2874952

and this: www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/janice_turner/article1088401.ece

make it fairly clear.

Agree on the 'should try harder' point however.

Appear she posted here, forgot she'd done so, then wrote an article about it. Oops. At least it means the story is probably true rather than journo-bollocks.

Loathsome article btw.

"Appear she posted here, forgot she'd done so, then wrote an article about it. Oops. At least it means the story is probably true rather than journo-bollocks."

If something has happened in RL to someone who is a journo, are they not ALLOWED to then write an article about it?

In fact I have seen several quite serious articles by MN journos about things which they also happen to have discussed here - because they were seeking advice and support.

Of course they are. I'm saying oops because I'm guessing that was unintended.

The unpleasant tone of the article seems very much intentional though, I guess that's a consequence of hanging about with people who think it's ok to refer to 'breeders'.

I think the article makes a really good point actually. I DO think there is a group of people who think they've suddenly become royalty, just because they've had a child. I know some. They are very selfish and 'get out of my way, I have a CHILD you know....'

I liked the article.