to be disgusted by the total moron parents who left a note on the car windscreen of my disabled parents' car

[TheDullWitch]

My parents, in their mid-80s, both who walk with sticks (my dad who just had a stroke) went to the supermarket. Since all the disabled spaces were filled and they struggle to walk more than a few yards, they parked in a parent and child space and left their disabled badge in the window.

When they returned to their car the following was written on a note on their windscreen. "This space is for parents, you stupid old bastards." This total and utter XXXX must have seen them struggle to walk and still thought that their own right to walk able-bodied with their toddler into a store was more important.

My mum and dad, who are gentle, kind people are so upset. I am so disgusted and upset.

SHAME ON YOU WHOEVER YOU ARE! SHAME ON YOU!

I would have thought its obvious that while it says parent and child, if a disabled person needs it more then they get to use it! Same like on the bus there is room for pushchairs but if a wheelchair comes you need to move for their priority.
Those people must be very low to leave such a note, your mum is right to show to the store manager.

Thanks Sunny - as a non-driver I've never had to consider those things, so you have enlightened me now. I didn't realise that they had more space: I thought it was just that they were closer and I couldn't see why parents couldn't walk! Dim emoticon.

absolutely. Yr poor parents. As holders of a blue badge they are entitled to park in in the nearest, most convenient yet safe and available place they can find. Shame on the horrid person who left that note. Good on you dullwitch for following it up

Good idea Riv, then people like me who just miscriteria for disabled parking but do P&T can play juggle-the-autie through the traffic!

P&T spaces are a godsend to people like myself.

TDW- no bloody excuses, grrrr

You should have a blue badge peachy. Tis wrong and unfair you don't

Yes.

Can't reallys ay more can I LOL? Tis the system I guess.

As it happens, DS1 is getting so severe that it may change.

I intervened when I saw a young couple, with a five year old, have a go and a frail old lady at Sainsburys. The twat man was shouting and the stupid bitch woman was laughing. I was so incensed that I stopped my very large car in the middle of the lane apologised to the elderly lady and told the rough couple that if they didn't move along I would phone the police and report them for intimidation, couldn't they see this lady wasn't sprinting to her car and deserved to park a short distance from the store. The bloke behind me who looked pretty hard got out of his car and stared at the man until he moved.

Oh this is awful I am so sorry your parents have had to go through this!! I doubt the individual was even a parent - just nasty!!

How awful - no respect for the elderly. Agree on showing the note to the supermarket manager.

That's vile. Tell your parents that I think they sound lovely and they shouldn't give it a second thought.

My local Ts is being redeveloped and I told the head planning guy who was telling to sell it to me by showing me the new improved parent and child spaces that I would rather than they were the other end of the car park if it meant they wouldnt be abused.

I understood my point but said the majority of parents wouldnt see it that way....I said really? Have you asked them? I suggest you do a survey!

How horrible for your parents.

I have become embroiled in P&C debates on other forums and could not belive the utter rubbish people were coming out with. How they couldnt go shopping if they didnt exist and how having a child was like having a disability. How on earth were they expected to get their child across the car park safely, how disabled people got loads of spaces and should be happy blah blah

P&C spaces are great but we managed without them for bloody years. I love it when I get one but wouldnt spend ages hovering waiting for someone to vacate one (seen that happen loads of times).

TBH I dont really bother with them now. Most helpful when baby was teeny. I like the extra space but agree they should be further away from entrance.

What sort of a moron begrudges a space to an elderly couple?

I meant HE understood my point

Chegirl - I also found parent and child spaces useful when the boys were toddlers/infants, because it was easier for them to get out of the car without bashing someone else's car with our car door. I also really appreciated being able to park somewhere where there was a protected walkway to the store.

I wouldn't have insisted on having the space if someone had needed it more, but as the mother of three children aged (for example) 1, 3 and 5, did I use the P&T spaces because they made my life easier? Yes, I did, and I see nothing wrong with that. I couldn't always leap out of the car and get to the back door in time to stop a boy flinging it open, and they didn't always listen to me telling them to wait - they do now, thankfully. And the protected walkway was a boon when I was carrying the littlest and trying to keep the other two safe.

No - of course it wasn't a necessity, but it certainly made life a bit easier, which I appreciated a lot.

Can't get them here either for ASD and now that he's older can't use the P&C spaces,so if he kicks off need to frogmarch him through the car park and ignorant people who think i'm just a bad parent.

YANBU

Your poor parents Dullwitch - although I suspect that since what happened to them was thoroughly nasty, but not illegal, there won't be very much the supermarket manager can do...

I find P&C places useful but don't in the least expect them - and unlike the woman who wouldn't meet DH and I's eye yesterday in the car park as we loaded out our baby's carseat - I don't use an empty, unoccupied car seat as a "P&C badge" - even though there's not a child to be seen.

Well, this happened to your parents and the note says these spaces are for parents, so i would tell your mum to feel even more justified in parking there!

I doubt that they were watched leaving, someone would have to be very mean and stupid (and if they were that confrontational would have approached them), they prob just noticed there were no car seats in the car and went off in a tizzy.

Our council does not give for non physical issues, I emailed councilleors etc and dint even get the courtesy of a repsone.

Borders I do the frogmarch with one but if I hve two (I have 4 children, 2 asd) then it beocmes nightmarish. DS3 is undergoing some strangerisein severityatm as hissensory issues are taking over, and we're actuall;y not far offlooking at a major buggy as his absences now mean I basically tow an unaware child about half of the time, dangerous forall andextremely hardwork- and undoable with a pushchair.

Peachy - if ds3 qualifies for higher rate mobility then you get a blue badge automatically. I didn't even bother trying to get one from my council -just applied for higher rate mobility. Blue badge came with it.

As for OP. 'Use your legs Princess' is of course the correct response to the idiot who left the note (impossible I know as they were too cowardly to actually talk to someone).

God the sense of entitlement some have never ceases to amaze me.

Littleducks - thank you for yr sympathy. What makes me think they were seen ? and still condemned - is the note said "old" bastards.

peachy luckily my boy is starting to overcome the sensory issues only the clothes,noise and light ones remain, funny thing is he's only just had profile done at 15 and I've been told loads was missed when younger.But frog marching a 5'8 boy when I'm only 5'4 gets some looks believe me.