to think that Brazilian waxes are NOT the norm. Or am I deluded?

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Article in the Times basically saying that it is an expectation nowadays that women will have Brazillians.

women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/relationships/article6893826.ece

Is this the case nowadays? I have never had a wax job down below and have no intention of. Sod that!

Particularly at this quote: "There is something hugely irritating about being forced to conform to an aesthetic ideal instigated and perpetuated by the porn industry, but...it is now expected. If your boyfriend has been conditioned to expect a tidy Brazilian, he may genuinely find anything else very off-putting".

Really? Or in actually still having pubic hair am I the modern equivalent of the wild woman of Borneo?

I'm completely bald. Did it the first time for dh but carried on as I prefer it. I think the idea that it makes you look like a child is ridiculous. I'm still a woman just one with bald bits. Agree with bamboobutton that it feels much cleaner when I've got my period. dh is also hairless.

Each to their own, obviously, but I prefer a shaven haven to a muff akin to Bin Laden's beard!

I find it a bit odd to want to be totally hairless. I would feel like a big baby. I do trim though. Mind you, I'm not that hairy anyway, it tends to be a fairly neat triangle. I think there is quite a big variation. I might be wrong, but I think southern European and Asian women can sometimes have slightly more body hair than pale white British people like me, and maybe hairier people are more likely to have waxing and feel they need to take a more radical approach IYSWIM.

Yes agree about the cleaner during period thing.

I've been taking off all the hair underneath for nearly 10 years now , but I prefer a neat scicilian at the front. When I had a hysterectomy in the summer I had to take off all the hair and I looked fecking weird, it made my hips look bigger too. I'm well overdue for a wax at the moment TBH and must get it done before I get mistaken for Chewbacca .

I wax underneath because it's fresher for the gym, in fact I've been single for a lot of the last 10 years so there has been no pressure from a bloke making me get it done.

However, I worry about what the standard will be when my DD is older. Hollywoods, fake tans, fake nails, fake hair .

i have had it done from time to time (the lot off) am currently sporting a 'knee length percy throwers allotment' style minge.
I have friends who are bald week in week out
(first time i went i had no idea what to expect but was going on holiday and had teeny tiny bikini bottoms to wear-anyway, the woman had me on all fours and came at me 'from behind' so as to speak and shoved a hot waxy spatula on my arsehole- i can't explain the pain-prior to that incident i had been unaware that i even had hair there...)

Firawla
strange. Does that apply to unmarried people too? Women at the hammam are funny about showing their muffs (or not!) But I'm sure most of the ones I've seen have hair. And definitely hairy pits. One of my SILs shaves her pits and legs but I assumed that was because her DH is european and he preferred it.
So apparently a whole country, or the majority of it, don't know it's obligatory.

I'm gonna ask DH when he gets back!

I'm wondering if the completely bald brigade are the same people whose houses are also ridiculously clean? For some reason this thread reminded me of a previous one about spotless homes......

the brazillian is where you leave a landing strip. the hollywood is where it all comes off

what country r u in? maybe if its a shia one its different cos i dno their rules?
its not only for married but everyone, and its not allowed to show that to people either they are supposed to be covered even in front of women from the navel to the knees
maybe the people who are not bothered about covering are the same ones not bothered about hair removal, could be an explaination i dunno!

DH's fam are in Morocco. I think it is Shia - pretty moderate. Do you mean women are supposed to be covered in front of other women? Blimey. In Morocco when you go to the public baths you get to see more naked bits than you would ever wish to in a lifetime!
(women do tend to dress conservatively but not necessarily traditionally in Morocco)

PMSL at 'kneee length percy thrower' style muff .

I think that's wrong - I think Morocco is moderate Sunni

I had a full wax down there this summer (to celebrate my 50th birthday) and despite the pain I quite liked being hair free, but like everyone else I didnt keep it up and I cant be arsed to go again. I cant shave because I get rashes.

Lol at Samantha's grey pubes. Mine havent gone grey yet!! DH has one or two grey ones down there though! My mother told me that as you get older you get less pubic hair, but Im still waiting for this to happen, because I have got hairier since getting older.

I didnt do it for my husband, but for me as part of a pampering treat. I will admit it felt fresher during the summer. I turned the tables on DH and said how would you like it if I asked you to have it done, and he called my bluff and said I will if you like that sort of thing. Dont fancy it though.

PMSL at all the 'down there' references on thins thread...

...Am now picturing Les Dawson old lady with a brazilian

just to add a 2 year old's perspective - this morning, me sitting on loo, her sitting on potty opposite me. i stand up to wipe, and loud voice says "mummy, why do you have a hairy bottom?"

explained that grown-up ladies have hair down there and little girls don't. she was happy with that, long may it last before she feels the pressure to wax it all off when she's teenage.

it did make me think i should probably trim it a bit though (heavily pg and can't see it so haven't even trimmed the edges for months, probably half way to my knees by now). but i don't do the full hollywood or brazillian thing ever. just too itchy to shave, too faffy to wax and can't afford endless salon waxes.

this thread, even

Thank God I'm of the older generation when women were expected to look like women! I remember how incensed my friends and I were at having to be shaved prior to childbirth (though that practice had ended by 1983, when my youngest dc was born).
I had no idea that porn stars and prostitutes etc are hairless - and I certainly have no wish to emulate them! Why would anyone? Surely a quick trim to keep things tidy is all that's needed?

First time I shaved my vulva was shortly after shaving my armpits.
Liked the look so continued doing it occasionally.

Must say that the type of wax used makes a big difference. Hard, no paper strips needed Brazilian wax (done by a Brazilian lady) was almost pain free, lasted longer, less ingrown hairs/soreness afterwards.
But couldn't be bothered with letting the hair grow between appts and the embarrassment factor so have just been trimming.

The thread title reminded me to order some Brazilian wax to do my bikini line Will keep on trimming the rest.

DH trims his pubic bone area and shaves his sack. IME less hair makes oral sex better but it's not a deal breaker.

Object to being told by men that I should and by women that I shouldn't.

BrokkenHarted my mum used to walk around the house naked, and so do I
It's so freeing but my friends think I'm crazy

OP from professional and personal experience Brazilian waxes are not the norm, but more women are removing more hair (not necessarily all and not necessarily waxing).

I don't think you can go a month without reading about genital waxing in at least one of the teen magazines.

I just find the argument that it makes sex "better" to be a bit mad.

I've had it done once, left a tiny triangle - I've never felt less sexy in my entire life , oh, and my husband hated it. ( it was a surprise ).
Imho, it's sterile and sexless.

am 42 and had briefest of brazilians for years now, can't imagine any other way. Do this for me, not dh, as he would prefer me to grow it back and be hairy strangely! Not a chance tho and he seems so cope...