to think that Brazilian waxes are NOT the norm. Or am I deluded?

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Article in the Times basically saying that it is an expectation nowadays that women will have Brazillians.

women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/relationships/article6893826.ece

Is this the case nowadays? I have never had a wax job down below and have no intention of. Sod that!

Particularly at this quote: "There is something hugely irritating about being forced to conform to an aesthetic ideal instigated and perpetuated by the porn industry, but...it is now expected. If your boyfriend has been conditioned to expect a tidy Brazilian, he may genuinely find anything else very off-putting".

Really? Or in actually still having pubic hair am I the modern equivalent of the wild woman of Borneo?

When I was about 16 I had this mate who was taking those tentative steps to exploration with her boyfriend for the first time. As he moved down he started to become at first confused, and then disgusted, before announcing to her that he thought that something was wrong and she was abnormal. Turns out the only women he had ever seen naked were hairless porn stars and her furry minge put the fear of god up him.

Personally, I think it's important to wander round the house naked with a full bush on. Then the kids have something normal to see rather than all the media images of apparently hairless women. I think I'll continue to do this until they tell me to stop because I am embarrassing!

The problem is, brazilian's probably aren't the norm, but people will read the article shown by the op and think they are, and so if they haven't got it all shaved off, will think they should, go and do it, and then brazilian's actually do become the norm and I'll have to feel weird down the communal changing rooms at the swimming pool!

I like your political nudity, Petradish

'people will read the article shown by the op and think they are, and so if they haven't got it all shaved off, will think they should'

Are people really that impressionable though Petradish? What a shame, if so.

I prefer mine waxed (Brazilian, not usually Hollywood) but will sometimes grow it back and have a full bush for a while if I can't be arsed to do it. DH never suggested it, it was my idea, although DH likes it waxed too. It is SO much more sensitive during sex (particularly oral) and I quite like the way it looks.

I don't give a stuff what society/men think or what other women choose to do with their bushes. If I decided to grow mine back tomorrow and keep it thus forever more, I doubt DH would comment. He's certainly not 'conditioned' to expect it.

Sometimes I have it done by a beauty therapist (not a 17 year-old NVQ as suggested earlier; its actually quite a mature woman who does it at the salon I go to) and am not at all embarrassed; why should I be? I've given birth, I don't really care what people think about my bits. If I can't afford to have it done, I might wax at home instead or shave..or just leave it to grow out for a while. Waxing really doesn't hurt much. Actually, the bit which hurts the most is the front bit where it's bony. The undercarriage doesn't hurt at all!

Funny that some posters seem to associate it with high-maintenance porn/media-influenced women. I never have false nails, rarely get my (head!) hair cut and don't often wear make-up but I like having a smooth fanjo. If others like a full bush, then good for them. Personal preference innit?

You would have to be a very sheltered soul to think that women were hairless!

Am amazed that a 16yo boy stopped at that point to make a complaint! Silly silly boy

That's kind of my attitude to it all too, Olifin. I have had all permutations, and I think it's up to the individual.

Morloth, I share your surprise on that front.

I find it odd that women are so 'oh no i would NEVER do it for my man' - - - why not? I wouldnt have done it for a boyfriend but my hubby i want to keep as satisfied as possible and would expect the same thing back from him.

Shaving is more for me but very much for him also. If i had no prob with something (shaving pubes in this case) and my man requested it i would more than happily do it for him. My body is the only body he gets to enjoy and i want it to please him. Likewise he keeps himself toned up for me because i like it.

(BTW he wouldnt mind if i refused, nor would i mind if he ddnt want to go to the gym but it is nice to please each other, no?)

Slightly off topic but everyone seems so defensive about it or am i picking up wrong?

Whats wrong with a nice trimmed bush? why have to wax/shave it all off. In my mid twenties and have only once had a brazillian too mush hard work.

Hot topic also in The Times

I think the message of the thread should be that there's nothing wrong with people's individual choices- if you are doing whatever you do to please you, and perhaps your partner (not random would-be guys), rather than conforming to a vague expectation, then it's nobody's business but your own.

I prefer not to have any bodyhair, my perference but DH does like it better too. I just feel cleaner if I don't have body hair.

It's like everything else personel perference isn't it?

I'm glad they've done this article and that youve started a thread.i do worry(not often) that every one but me does this.and that I'm the odd one out

disclaimer-am bit tipsy

A would-be would get a forest!

Hee hee heated that's the article that prompted this thread, if you look at the OP!

Oh, I'm so current.

I think whatever floats your boat BrokkenHarted as long as no man is insisting or demanding or thinking it is weird that women have body hair, then a preference for clean shaven is just that a preference.

I would probably go for "novelty" arrangements if DH suggested it, for a bit of fun, but hey I am up for anything once.

Right I am off to bed. This has been a very fun thread.

I trim mine with an epilator, landing strip style but it would land a massive plane. (Chance would be a fine thing).

I prefer it trimmed. Each to their own and no-one should feel under pressure to shave/wax.

Personally I couldn't care less, but DH prefers me to be trimmed so that he doesn't get a mouthful of stray hairs! So the deal is that he does it for me, with my electric trimmer. He just neatens me up and keeps me trimmed. He also trims himself and it does make it better for both of us on the BJ front!

As a nursey person who fairly regularly has to view fannies I can tell you that in the majority of women of an age to be having smears, they keep it trimmed but tidy. Minimal spider smuggling.

Full waxes and metalwork tend to be seen in younger women IME.

singed good to know

Do none of you ladies worry about stubble rash from him? I find an au naturel bush avoids that problem quite nicely by giving him something to rest his chin on.

And I am the right side of 30 as well. So there.

roneef
that must be a cultural thing because my DH has never removed his pubes. My SILs who are married do sometimes but they don't do their pits.

i find the arguement that a shaved fanjo makes you look like a little girl quite bizarre!

last i looked little girls don't have have curvey thighs and hips, cellulite or breasts!

i prefer to shave mine clean off. i don't like pissy or menstrual blood encrusted pubes and i hate the way the hair works it's way between the flaps and absorbs all the moisture making me dry as a bone down there and and leaves me scurrying off somewhere discreet to rake the hair out.

i haven't been able to shave for two years as we have no bath in our house. we are moving house in a month and the first thing im going to do is have a bath and whip the razor out.

kat its not cultural it is obligatory. perhaps they just are not aware of the ruling?
the maximum you can leave it is 40 days & after that it's blameworthy. im sure this is the same in all 4 schools...